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Old 01-09-2013, 03:43 PM   #1
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I want an FI bike with a little more power than a WR250R.

Today my dealer called and offered to convert a 2013 WR450F (with a Baja Designs kit) and sell it with a Texas STREET title. It would cost $9800.

That puts it up there with the 690 Enduro and the 500 EXC.

Should I settle for the $6600 250? Or drop the hammer on a middle bore bad boy?

The dealer said the WR250F, if ridden as a dual sport, would have the same service intervals as the WR250R; is he smoking crack?

Would the street legal WR450F be more reliable/long-lived than the KTM's?

I don't plan to ride for more than an hour at a time on the interstate. Interstate isn't my priority, but in Texas, it's unavoidable. I also spend a lot of time in Maine during the summer--so there will be logging roads, two-track, and single track. I don't have any multi-day trips planned, but I'd like the capability.

I weigh 230#'s.

Thanks for any insight you can provide...this one's been driving me nuts!
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:33 PM   #2
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All the bikes you mentioned are great bikes, but each has its own advantage/disadvantage.

WR450 FI would be better for hardcore single track, but will wear you out after an hour on the interstate, and is only a 5 speed.

KTM 690 ER will do OK in single track, and will do good on the interstate.

WR250 will do both single track and Interstate OK, but only makes half the power of the WR450 and less than half of the power of a KTM690.

My only concern with the new FI WR450's is fuel capacity. You can re-gear the bike for better cruising speeds.

You biggest factor will come down to what tires you select.

Have you looked into the Husky TE511?
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:29 PM   #3
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Umm...where are you finding 690 Enduros for $9800 is my question...? I'd have happily saved the money if I could have found one...LOL

Be careful with "road legal dirt bikes". One change to your legislation and you suddenly have a bike you can't ride on the highway and can't sell... ;)
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Old 01-09-2013, 09:22 PM   #4
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Sportsguy, You're right--the 690 is closer to 11K, but once you're up to 9.8k, what's the difference? Uhm, please don't respond with math. I hear what you're saying about road legal dirt bikes.

ZX, thanks for your suggestions. I looked at the Husqvarna. The problem I'm having is that I really don't want THAT much more than a WR250R. I'd just like some more grunt on bottom and a little more leeway at freeway speeds.

I've already owned a DR 650 and I never want to ride a bike that heavy again.

If I want a little more than the WRR, I'm forced into another class altogether--in price, performance, and maintenance schedules.

It's frustrating, but I'll probably pull the trigger on the WR250R this Saturday. I hate feeling like I'm settling for something less than I want. I just don't see a good middle option.

C'mon Yamaha!
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Old 01-10-2013, 05:44 AM   #5
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As far as new plated bikes go (with EFI), your choices are either a WR250R, a KTM 500 EXC, or Husqvarna TE310/449/511.

Personally, I would pick a KTM 500 over a converted WR450F all day long...actually I'd pick my flavor of Husky over the converted Yami too
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Old 01-10-2013, 06:21 AM   #6
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Hey buy my 798cc F800GS. its ready to go and you can have it for 9800.00 with a ton of stuff already on it.
I'll buy your plane ticket to here so you can ride it home.
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Old 01-10-2013, 06:26 AM   #7
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Yep, I don't get going with the BD kit and a converted title when the EXC rolls off the showroom floor street legal in all 50 states. About all that 500 needs is a decent seat (what enduro doesn't?) to be a perfectly acceptable dual sport.
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Old 01-10-2013, 06:54 AM   #8
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Yep, I don't get going with the BD kit and a converted title when the EXC rolls off the showroom floor street legal in all 50 states. About all that 500 needs is a decent seat (what enduro doesn't?) to be a perfectly acceptable dual sport.
That and the EXC already has a hydraulic clutch, an ECU you don't immediately have to replace, and comes with a useable wide spread trans. I'd be looking between the WRR or the EXC. The WR450F, while neat, just isn't quite all there; especially for the price of a KTM.
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:46 AM   #9
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Find a nice used RFS (KTM) that's already tagged. Plenty out there for $5k or less. A 400 EXC would be just the ticket.
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Old 01-10-2013, 08:02 AM   #10
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That, too. Then you can afford two of them.
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Old 01-10-2013, 08:06 AM   #11
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The dealer said the WR250F, if ridden as a dual sport, would have the same service intervals as the WR250R; is he smoking crack?
Sounds like he's hitting the glass pipe to me. Or something similar.
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:01 PM   #12
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As far as new plated bikes go (with EFI), your choices are either a WR250R, a KTM 500 EXC, or Husqvarna TE310/449/511.

Personally, I would pick a KTM 500 over a converted WR450F all day long...actually I'd pick my flavor of Husky over the converted Yami too
Aargg! I'm back to the 500EXC! I love that bike, but I'm concerned about its longevity. Even the guy at the shop said he would never use it for interstate travel. He said it would wear out the engine and I would be replacing the pistons within a 100 hours.

Dang! The EXC seems perfect otherwise.
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:06 PM   #13
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Try this:

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=746534
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:01 PM   #14
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for $7000 you can buy a drz400s, or a husky tr650, or a dr650, ect

$9800 is a bit much
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:38 PM   #15
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Aargg! I'm back to the 500EXC! I love that bike, but I'm concerned about its longevity. Even the guy at the shop said he would never use it for interstate travel. He said it would wear out the engine and I would be replacing the pistons within a 100 hours.

Dang! The EXC seems perfect otherwise.
I call bullshit on that, the interstate is nothing compared to bouncing off the rev limiter shock loading the whole drivetrain between wheel skips while sucking in dust. Which is what these bikes, and the quoted 100 hour top end, were designed for.
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