I need help down-changing impossible - Page 2

Emoto · 01-07-2013, 10:24 AM

Are you sure you are unloading the drivetrain prior to your downshift?

Gezerbike · 01-07-2013, 06:33 PM

my thoughts

JimVonBaden · 01-07-2013, 06:42 PM

These should help.

I will be using some of these in an upcoming video.

Jim

Noelk1200 · 01-09-2013, 09:18 AM

Jim, thanks so much for the pics. So so helpful for a newcomer! Looking to tackle it as soon as....Noel

DRONE · 01-10-2013, 08:59 PM

I don't think you mentioned how many miles are on the bike?

On my 1150, down-shifting became quite difficult when my slave cylinder started to die. As mileage goes higher, slaves get older, then they die. But I'm not a 1200 guy so don't know if this applies to you.

Noelk1200 · 01-11-2013, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRONE

I don't think you mentioned how many miles are on the bike?

On my 1150, down-shifting became quite difficult when my slave cylinder started to die. As mileage goes higher, slaves get older, then they die. But I'm not a 1200 guy so don't know if this applies to you.

The bike is a 2004, with about 18500 miles. The bike has a full BMW Service History up until 2010, missed a service in 2011 because of lack of use and an independant garage in 2012.

layabout · 01-11-2013, 05:29 PM

That thing is still new ! Take the link with the ball joints off, wash out with WD-40, lube up with grease and you'll notice the difference.

Ayrshire Bull · 01-11-2013, 06:02 PM

i found some interesting points on youtube about this - that might be useful

take a gander at this Noel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rx-Jx78yzc

Noelk1200 · 01-13-2013, 12:54 PM

I think that you tube video only apply's to the dohc model, may be wrong though???. Gear box oil changed today and it was quite rank looking compared to the stuff we put in. Linkage taken off, cleaned and greased etc. May be psychological but after taking it a short run it did appear much smoother changing gear. On closer inspection there was a wee bit of play in the linkage. I will have to update when this Scottish weather is a bit more tolerable to see if the problem is completely solved, however, fingers crossed!!!!

kimokk · 01-13-2013, 01:25 PM

Good job!

N-m · 02-03-2013, 01:47 PM

I see what appears to be a felt washer in some pics. Should that be present on all models? I have a '95 GS.

Thanks for the pics.

Ayrshire Bull · 02-03-2013, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N-m

I see what appears to be a felt washer in some pics. Should that be present on all models? I have a '95 GS.

Thanks for the pics.

Yes - but if yours is missing - don't get the BMW one. Touratech have got an upgraded one, made from a mix of carbon fibre and felt made out of llama's wool. It's expensive, but if you're going to fix this problem, you may as well do it once and do it right.

JimVonBaden · 02-03-2013, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayrshire Bull

Yes - but if yours is missing - don't get the BMW one. Touratech have got an upgraded one, made from a mix of carbon fibre and felt made out of llama's wool. It's expensive, but if you're going to fix this problem, you may as well do it once and do it right.

Jim

riggpigg · 02-04-2013, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Noelk1200

Going back up and back down the box whilst stationary appears to solve it eventually but this definetly needs fully sorted before the Summer so I can get some monster mileage in!!!: clap

Is it possible your clutch adjustment has been compromised?? If it shifts okay while the engine is off is suspect to me??
Unless by stationary you mean stopped with engine running, then I got nothing......

N-m · 02-04-2013, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JimVonBaden

Jim

Unfortunately I am still tempted to do a search on the Touratech website.

01-07-2013, 10:24 AM	#16
Emoto Sure, why not? Joined: Feb 2004 Location: SE Mass Oddometer: 16,305	Are you sure you are unloading the drivetrain prior to your downshift? __________________ Eventual Master of the Obvious 2005 R1200GS \| 2013 R11200GSW \| SOHC4 208 \| DoD 2032 \| BMWMOA \| BMWRA \| YB Proud walking jingle in the midnight sun. Smugmug Coupon: mStnWv71mNkjo Join the NRA: http://membership.nrahq.org/

01-07-2013, 06:33 PM	#17
Gezerbike Hey Rocky........... Joined: Jul 2002 Location: Frostbite Falls, Il Oddometer: 3,045	my thoughts __________________ ___________________________________________ Mike 1998 R 1100 GS 2007 K 1200 GT

01-07-2013, 06:42 PM	#18
JimVonBaden "Cool" Aid! Joined: Feb 2005 Location: Alexandria, VA Oddometer: 41,925	These should help. I will be using some of these in an upcoming video. Jim __________________ Click here for BMW Maintenance and Repair DVDs and Corrections. "Combo-Order Discounts!"

01-09-2013, 09:18 AM	#19
Noelk1200 ^OP Adventurer Joined: Nov 2012 Location: Newton Stewart, South West Scotland Oddometer: 10	Thanks Jim, thanks so much for the pics. So so helpful for a newcomer! Looking to tackle it as soon as....Noel

01-10-2013, 08:59 PM	#20
DRONE Dog Chauffeur Joined: Oct 2007 Location: Tacoma, WA Oddometer: 2,690	I don't think you mentioned how many miles are on the bike? On my 1150, down-shifting became quite difficult when my slave cylinder started to die. As mileage goes higher, slaves get older, then they die. But I'm not a 1200 guy so don't know if this applies to you. __________________ ******************* WUMPA! Goot-Z 4XKPN - sold

01-11-2013, 05:29 PM	#22
layabout Adventurer Joined: Nov 2008 Location: North Georgia, USA Oddometer: 75	That thing is still new ! Take the link with the ball joints off, wash out with WD-40, lube up with grease and you'll notice the difference. __________________ 2002 R1150GS

01-11-2013, 06:02 PM	#23
Ayrshire Bull why the hell not? Joined: Nov 2002 Location: North Vancouver, B.C., CA-NA-DA Oddometer: 1,307	i found some interesting points on youtube about this - that might be useful take a gander at this Noel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rx-Jx78yzc __________________ "It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see." - HDT

01-13-2013, 12:54 PM	#24
Noelk1200 ^OP Adventurer Joined: Nov 2012 Location: Newton Stewart, South West Scotland Oddometer: 10	I think that you tube video only apply's to the dohc model, may be wrong though???. Gear box oil changed today and it was quite rank looking compared to the stuff we put in. Linkage taken off, cleaned and greased etc. May be psychological but after taking it a short run it did appear much smoother changing gear. On closer inspection there was a wee bit of play in the linkage. I will have to update when this Scottish weather is a bit more tolerable to see if the problem is completely solved, however, fingers crossed!!!!

01-13-2013, 01:25 PM	#25
kimokk Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Nov 2009 Location: NOVA Oddometer: 103	Good job! __________________ '09 BMW R1200GSA Adventure! IBA #49426

02-03-2013, 01:47 PM	#26
N-m Captain 2 Sexy Joined: Jan 2011 Location: Too Far from My Welder and BMW in South TN. Oddometer: 152	I see what appears to be a felt washer in some pics. Should that be present on all models? I have a '95 GS. Thanks for the pics.

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