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Old 01-13-2013, 07:50 PM   #72811
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Welcome to the wonderful world of the DR650.

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So about those darn simple repairs...I bought my first bike, a decent condition DR 3 weeks ago, and dropped it on some wet grass a few days ago. Handlebars bent, got some ordered, etc. The worrying thing is now my chain makes a fun buzzing sound as if it's rubbing something.
What year is your DR, how many miles? Did you drop the bike on the left or right side? Since it's unusual to bend anything that's related to the chain, chances are the bike was buzzing before you dropped it. It's simple enough to get down on your knees next to the bike and follow the chain around its diameter, look for something touching.
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Truth be told, I never looked at my chain before it made annoying sounds, but now that I do when I'm rolling I notice it seemed to have a fair bit of play both up and down and side to side. When stopped, I can touch the chain in the middle of the sprockets to the top of what maybe is called the swing arm? I honestly don't know the name of most parts...
The swingarm is the aluminum thingy running from your frame to the rear axle. Chain: There is supposed to be a fair bit of play, both up-n-down and side-to-side. There is a rubber piece running along the bottom of the swingarm, you should be able to push the chain up and touch it; at the rearmost end of the rubber.

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I tightened and lubed it, thinking it was just too much slack. And wouldn't you know it the buzzing just got louder.
Loosen it back up. The worst thing for your driveline is a chain that's too tight, don't make adjustments that you don't understand.
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I is confused.
According to my ex-wife, so is I.
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Sure I could take it to the service center, but if I can't do the simplest of effing repairs, why did I buy a DR? So I turn to you good people. Also, if you can recommend what sort of service manual I can buy that will edumacate me as an absolute noob, I'm all ears.
How old are you, any mechanical experience (you know, are ya a tool guy)? Fill in your profile (country or state, guys warm up to ya quicker), learn how to post pics (everybody loves pics), don't touch anything until you post a pic and ask what you need to do. It's mid winter, everyone is bored and looking for a new kid to teach how to do things right.

How to post a photo:
http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=919

Everyone here wants to help you, don't run away.

This is what you do NOT want your chain to look like, post a pic of yours.

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"BTW, I don't do style. It's a dirt bike, not some girlie dress-up thing." -

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Old 01-13-2013, 08:19 PM   #72812
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heres another good thing about the DRs smooth engine: makes a reasonable video platform

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Old 01-13-2013, 08:32 PM   #72813
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Some good stuff there. Really like the underwater shot on the crossing.

Re: Maintenance - I buy a shop manual for anything motorized that I own. And I learn a ton here.
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:45 PM   #72814
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How old are you, any mechanical experience (you know, are ya a tool guy)? Fill in your profile (country or state, guys warm up to ya quicker), learn how to post pics (everybody loves pics), don't touch anything until you post a pic and ask what you need to do
Sound advice for a 25 year old who has very little mechanical experience, and plenty of mechanical snafus to overcome.

Dropped it on the right side, wasn't going too fast but definitely got a little overcocky in my abilities. I'll take off the top roller as Carl suggested, and surely loosen the chain back up. Probably worth picking up the manual, too... I had the bike checked out by a mechanic before I bought it, the chain's not the newest but it does look good, def better in the sprockets than in the photos you put up. Thanks, and I'll be sure to post pictures for every problem!
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:04 PM   #72815
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Simple Repairs

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So about those darn simple repairs...I bought my first bike, a decent condition DR 3 weeks ago, and dropped it on some wet grass a few days ago. Handlebars bent, got some ordered, etc. The worrying thing is now my chain makes a fun buzzing sound as if it's rubbing something. Truth be told, I never looked at my chain before it made annoying sounds, but now that I do when I'm rolling I notice it seemed to have a fair bit of play both up and down and side to side. When stopped, I can touch the chain in the middle of the sprockets to the top of what maybe is called the swing arm? I honestly don't know the name of most parts...

I tightened and lubed it, thinking it was just too much slack. And wouldn't you know it the buzzing just got louder. I is confused. Sure I could take it to the service center, but if I can't do the simplest of effing repairs, why did I buy a DR? So I turn to you good people. Also, if you can recommend what sort of service manual I can buy that will edumacate me as an absolute noob, I'm all ears.
Welcome crazy88 to the DR world. Ask and you shall receive!

http://www.procycle.us/
has loads of info, parts, service manual and helpful hints.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...2&postcount=32
Go here for most all the info you may need.

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Old 01-13-2013, 09:10 PM   #72816
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"Any reason NOT to buy a new one? Didn't think so."

huh?

i can't think of a single reason for you to buy a new one! imagine how nice you could make yours if you took only half the money a new one costs and used it to trick yours out...

doug s.
Here in Oz they're asking almost as much for a second hand one as a new one. I paid $6k for a black 2008 with about 3000kms last year (haggled down from $6.5k) New ones (with a 2yr warranty) were only $7400 at the time.

I love my bush pig but now realise it was used for 3 years on the run-in oil. Kinda wish I'd bought new, but neither of the available colours appeals to me.

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Old 01-13-2013, 09:31 PM   #72817
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Blackcap: very kewl video, good tunes too, thanks for posting. Did you say fuk?? Cause that's what I say anytime I drop my DR. The underwater bit was intimidating. Maybe you could give us GPS coordinates once inna while, where inna fook are you? SE Asia doesn't narrow it down much.

Recently you asked for solutions to dust getting through your carb's secondary air filter. I think I posted a link to this post:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...9&postcount=82

Here's an update. I just cleaned that filter again and it was too dirty again. Here are photos of what I found.



Previous neglect:


Checking further I found that almost no dirt got thru the filter, even though the bike has 43,xxx miles. The tube has never been cleaned.
One side of the Q-tip, behind the secondary filter.

Other side of the same Q-tip.
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:46 PM   #72818
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heres another good thing about the DRs smooth engine: makes a reasonable video platform

That is awesome! And it is nice to see my parts in action...

D.
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:59 PM   #72819
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Sound advice for a 25 year old who has very little mechanical experience, and plenty of mechanical snafus to overcome.
None of us were born knowing this stuff, we learned it. Three years ago I was a 'lurker'. As I learned things, I started teaching others what I think I know. When I mess up, someone (or 6) will say so.

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Dropped it on the right side, wasn't going too fast but definitely got a little overcocky in my abilities.
Overcocky is in our DNA, it's how guys work. It's also how we got men on the moon.
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I'll take off the top roller as Carl suggested,
Carl is right.
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and surely loosen the chain back up. Probably worth picking up the manual, too... I had the bike checked out by a mechanic before I bought it,
Getting the bike checked by a mechanic was a very good idea.
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the chain's not the newest but it does look good, def better in the sprockets than in the photos you put up. Thanks, and I'll be sure to post pictures for every problem!
Again, welcome to the site.
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Old 01-13-2013, 10:22 PM   #72820
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Blackcap: very kewl video, good tunes too, thanks for posting. Did you say fuk?? Cause that's what I say anytime I drop my DR. The underwater bit was intimidating. Maybe you could give us GPS coordinates once inna while, where inna fook are you? SE Asia doesn't narrow it down much.

Recently you asked for solutions to dust getting through your carb's secondary air filter. I think I posted a link to this post:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...9&postcount=82

Here's an update. I just cleaned that filter again and it was too dirty again. Here are photos of what I found.


Previous neglect:

Checking further I found that almost no dirt got thru the filter, even though the bike has 43,xxx miles. The tube has never been cleaned.
One side of the Q-tip, behind the secondary filter.
Other side of the same Q-tip.
that looks exactly what im looking for. and the best part is inmate Chill came through with his old one that he no longer wants and even posted the thing for free. im trying to get the other video up of the dusty roads that did the damage but my upload limit for the week is finished and then im back in indonesia where its touch and go even uploading photos. thanks for the solution to this. its nice to know we have innovative people on board here coming up with simple solutions like this.
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Old 01-13-2013, 10:25 PM   #72821
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That is awesome! And it is nice to see my parts in action...

D.

i should get one of the videos up just before i changed them out, you can hear the bike cough and almost die every time i open the throttle up from the closed position.
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Old 01-13-2013, 10:43 PM   #72822
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that looks exactly what im looking for. and the best part is inmate Chill came through with his old one that he no longer wants and even posted the thing for free.
Rockin' Chill.
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im trying to get the other video up of the dusty roads that did the damage
Looking forward to it.
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but my upload limit for the week is finished and then im back in indonesia where its touch and go even uploading photos.
I just recently got hi speed internet. Previously, photos, up or down, took a painfully long time to load.
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thanks for the solution to this. its nice to know we have innovative people on board here coming up with simple solutions like this.
Here's where we thank Rusty Rocket for the idea.
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:48 PM   #72823
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Suzuki would have to give me some serious motivation to buy a brand new one. If they made something that competed with the BMW Serato with FI, more body protection, and better highway manners, I might be tempted to buy another one.
I think you mean the BMW Sertao ... It's really not close to the DR650 in most respects. To start with it's 60 or 70 lbs. heavier, has spindly little 41mm Showa forks and still carries some of the problems the old F650's had. I'd be careful what you wish for. Have you ever bought a new BMW?

Now check the MSRP : $8670 (base)

Sertao claims to have 48 BHP ... so figure about 40 HP at the rear wheel.
It's a beautiful bike with nicer clocks and switches. It is no smoother on the highway than a well set up DR650. Biggest advantage besides looks ... it gets about 65 MPG.

The bike that comes closer is the Husqvarna Terra. About $800 cheaper, better suspension, lighter. Will either go 50,000 miles without trouble?
Dunno. Still a BMW product.
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Old 01-14-2013, 12:27 AM   #72824
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I would like to see everyone that likes the DR650 to go buy a new one this year. That would inspire Suzuki to keep making and importing them. I HAD TO BUY A USED ONE LAST YEAR BECAUSE NONE OF THE DEALERS IN MY AREA WOULD STOCK THEM, and Suzuki was out of stock by late spring when I was ready to buy since they are not a high volume seeling model.

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In all honesty, I would go to the dealer and buy one tomorrow, only issue is they are not available in Europe any more

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I don't necessarily need something super fancy, but considering how big the bike is, it would be nice for it to cruise stretches of highway a bit better. From what I've gathered, they already make a more powerful engine based on the DR650 that they put in the Freewind. Just adding five or ten HP to the DR and some kind of token wind protection would be a big boon to me. As we've seen from the big bore kits, revised cams, and Suzuki's own Freewind, you can add power to this engine without adding hardly any weight or complexity to the bike. .
IMHO more wind protection means more plastics to break when dropping the bike off-road. Wind protection can be added to a bike if you wish, but in most cases you can't just take the plastics off a faired bike to make it more dirt worthy, so from my point of view the current form of the DR is the more versatile solution. Just my opinion though...

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I've heard that dealers are selling as many as they can get. The issue is government regulations... emissions, etc. I had heard a rumor that 2013 or 2014 will be the last year of both the DR650 and DRZ400 in their current form. Supposedly there will be a new 450-based DRZ with EFI, and who knows what the DR650 will turn into.

The ADV market is huge right now; I don't see them discontinued at all; I just see them being reinvented due to regulatory BS, which could ruin what is otherwise a great bike. OR, it could be THE new standard, there's no way to know yet.
This could be the chance for re-introducing the DRs in Europe, they've been missing for 10 years now. I only hope they will keep it simple and light.
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Old 01-14-2013, 12:47 AM   #72825
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heres another good thing about the DRs smooth engine: makes a reasonable video platform

Hey, what type of headlight mask (fairing) is that? (visible at 04:53 in the video). Can you give us more information about it? Seems like a nice mod, allowing 2 HID projectors to be used.
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