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Old 01-15-2013, 09:22 AM   #91
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When one door closes another door opens

Hang in there!

I though it was 'when one door close another slams in your face'?


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Hold on!
Whatever you do, you do for the best!!!

Excuse me, I want to seize the moment.
You can do two measurements for me?

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I'll get back to you with some measurements Ivan.

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Hang on a second Jim, I have a feeling the balance shaft drive gear is a press fit onto the crankshaft, and you may be able to get a gear from a buggered crank fitted to your crankshaft. Need to talk to a crankshaft rebuilder to be sure.
Or it may be cheaper to fit a used crank if you can find one. Lots on ebay.com
Yep, there's a crank on ebay(UK) at the moment for a not unreasonable 50 UKP. I'll have to check it out first, but that's probably the way to go I suspect. I'm sulking with the XL at the moment though and I have a bathroom to install at home so it'll have to wait.
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Old 01-15-2013, 09:58 AM   #92
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I though it was 'when one door close another slams in your face'?




I'll get back to you with some measurements Ivan.



Yep, there's a crank on ebay(UK) at the moment for a not unreasonable 50 UKP. I'll have to check it out first, but that's probably the way to go I suspect. I'm sulking with the XL at the moment though and I have a bathroom to install at home so it'll have to wait.
thanks!
Look crankshaft here -http://www.hondaxl.de/shop/XL-600-R/...rbelwelle.html
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:16 PM   #93
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Here you go Ivan,

Let me know if there are any other measurements you need (or photo's of XL6 components).

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Excuse me, I want to seize the moment.
You can do two measurements for me?

1. Which thickness (size) of the left crankcase a XL600? (from the main connectors to cover the stator) - 74.5mm
2.What size (depth) in the cover the stator (of connectors up to supports the stator)? - 22.0mm


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Old 01-15-2013, 12:30 PM   #94
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Here you go Ivan,

Let me know if there are any other measurements you need (or photo's of XL6 components).

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Many thanks Jim!
These two measurements are the principal for me today.
I'm looking for a place for an additional 6 mm. at the tail end of the crankshaft (the stator). I think 600 stator cover more than 500 cover by 6 mm. Thanks for the offer, I would think.
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Many thanks Jim!
These two measurements are the principal for me today.
I'm looking for a place for an additional 6 mm. at the tail end of the crankshaft (the stator). I think 600 stator cover more than 500 cover by 6 mm. Thanks for the offer, I would think.
You're welcome Ivan.

I've just been reading your XL500 revival thread - I have an easy time with my bike in comparison. St Petersburg looks amazing; when my XL is finished I will ride out to visit
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:06 AM   #96
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You're welcome Ivan.

I've just been reading your XL500 revival thread - I have an easy time with my bike in comparison. St Petersburg looks amazing; when my XL is finished I will ride out to visit
Welcome Jim, I will be glad to meet you.
Many thanks for your measurements, I went to see it cover starter yesterday, 500 cover less than 600 cover by 6 mm.
Сrafty Japanese engineers - Hooray!
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:53 AM   #97
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Question End float?

OK, I've stopped sulking now and ordered that replacement crank off ebay. Too far away to go and see, but I had a good chat with the seller beforehand and have to trust his promise of my money back if the part's no good. Fingers crossed it's a good un.


When I stripped the engine cases first time round, I think the gearbox was missing some spacers/shims on either end of the output shaft (the one the drive sprocket sits on) - there seemed to be a lot of end float - about 5mm I guessed at the time.
When I rebuilt the box, I put a 3mm shim on the output side which seemed to centralise the pinions and the gearbox shifted OK when the cases were bolted up. There is still just over 1.2 mm of end float. Is that normal or do I need to shim the 'other' end too?
I'll have the cases split again when the replacement crank arrives, so I'll do some photo's of what I've got so far.

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Old 03-04-2013, 02:37 PM   #98
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Wicked Competition time!

Spot the difference...

XL600R















...here you go
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The offending chip out of the balancer shaft drive gear. I can't believe I missed it!
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Old 03-04-2013, 02:49 PM   #99
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Thumb Back to the future...

With the new crank inspected thoroughly I set about rebuilding the bottom end. Again.

XL600R

It's too cold outside in the garage so I'm working on the kitchen table. Luckily I have an understanding wife . Either that or she's just used to it after 28 years!

XL600R
Transmission in with the layshaft (output shaft) shimmed to take out most of the end float I mentioned in a previous post. It's now down to slightly less than 0.10 thou, hopefully that'll do.

XL600R
'New' crankshaft installed along with the balancer shaft. Looking good

XL600R
et voila! Back to the same point I was at 6 weeks ago, except this time the crank turns nice a smoothly with no 'rough spot'.

Now it's on to the top-end. The piston is fine but I've got new rings, cam chain and guides to go into a freshly honed barrel. I've also built the head and cam cover back up so we should (hopefully) be good to go on the next stage.
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:20 PM   #100
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Old 03-06-2013, 05:59 AM   #101
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:02 PM   #102
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It's an engine Jim...

Well, I finally managed get the bathroom finished (almost) and that meant I got an evening to play with the XL engine.

This is where I'd got to...

XL600R

So, next it was on with the piston, rings and barrel, but not before I had removed the crank pinion to fit the new camchain which wouldn't fit in between that and the oil pump

XL600R

...then, on with the camchain guides, head, tensioner and cam

XL600R

ALL STOP!

When I took the engine apart the cam sprocket bolts didn't match each other. One is the OEM M7(!) bolt while the other looks like it's of a bicycle brake system (just a guess) - chromed, domed allen screw.
I guess this might not be a problem, but for the sake of a few pence, I'll get a couple of M7 bolts from the local engineering supplies shop.

More to follow!
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Old 04-01-2013, 02:03 PM   #103
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Talking Made some progress today...

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Looking Good Jim!!!!
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