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Old 01-16-2013, 01:17 PM   #451
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call me francis, and i'll kill 'ya.....
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:48 PM   #452
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call me francis, and i'll kill 'ya.....
Them was my fighting words as a kid.

Now I am very proud to be a distinguished older gentleman who rides dirt bikes with Francis as my middle name.

My how we change.
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Old 01-16-2013, 02:41 PM   #453
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Yup, at least they finish a damn race.




It's 10 am and Dakar has given up and quit on their race again. Pussies.


NASCAR isn't scheduled to pick up and move the entire stadium and all the race teams to another city 300 miles away by the next morning.
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Old 01-16-2013, 02:44 PM   #454
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Lighten up Francis...
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LOL...you and only a few others are probably the only ones that get that! That was a youth favorite, cult movie!
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:08 PM   #455
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Yup, at least they finish a damn race.




It's 10 am and Dakar has given up and quit on their race again. Pussies.


Accurate assessment coming from a keyboard racer.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:14 PM   #456
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LOL...you and only a few others are probably the only ones that get that! That was a youth favorite, cult movie!
Son of a bitch. Shit.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:28 PM   #457
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:14 PM   #458
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All this talk makes me want a hulkaburger

I wonder how a" heavily armed recreational vehicle" would do at dakar




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Old 01-16-2013, 04:18 PM   #459
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All this talk makes me want a hulkaburger

I wonder how a" heavily armed recreational vehicle" would do at dakar




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Old 01-16-2013, 08:27 PM   #460
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I don't understand your statement "the ASO let's him play". He paid his entry fee just like everyone else, and was actually excluded last year before the end of the rally.
Well the whole scrutineering Pass then Un-pass last year and the "Talk" that other teams were holding out on ratting him out about it until the Hummer got within striking range makes me think that ASO takes his money and let's him play and bring in the fan base (slight US but crowd pleaser on the stages). I say play because it doesn't seem that they will actually ever let him win, though I wonder if that would all change if he could convince a manufacturer with a strong European presence, Ford comes to mind, to field a factory team of Pick Em Up Trucks or SUV "Look Alike" buggies.

I don't really watch Robby in the other disciplines he races but when it comes to Dakar I sure do, the "American Rebel" logo appeals to me, I've done the Planet Robby thing since the Monster days just for these two weeks.

GO Robby!!!
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:17 PM   #461
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Well the whole scrutineering Pass then Un-pass last year and the "Talk" that other teams were holding out on ratting him out about it until the Hummer got within striking range makes me think that ASO takes his money and let's him play and bring in the fan base (slight US but crowd pleaser on the stages). I say play because it doesn't seem that they will actually ever let him win, though I wonder if that would all change if he could convince a manufacturer with a strong European presence, Ford comes to mind, to field a factory team of Pick Em Up Trucks or SUV "Look Alike" buggies.

I don't really watch Robby in the other disciplines he races but when it comes to Dakar I sure do, the "American Rebel" logo appeals to me, I've done the Planet Robby thing since the Monster days just for these two weeks.

GO Robby!!!
The general public knows little of what really went down with Robby & the ASO or the FIA on his getting DQed. I do know that it was general knowledge in the bivouac that the other teams knew about "systems" down stream of the restrictor on his car, did the ASO overlook it and then the FIA stepped in when BMW blew the whistle? Water under the bridge. There is no ASO vs. American thing happening no matter what the fanatics blather about.

There was a Dakar race before Robby and there will be a Dakar race next year when he stays home to run his SST business. Excitable kids at a skate park is kewl, but do you really think it brings the ASO a measurable increase in revenue? Just like what we see in Baja when he shows up to race, lots of crowd excitement as he goes through contingency and everyone yells and yea hoos when he races by, but those people are there even when he's not racing. Ever see the turn out for WRC in Argentina?? They have to cancel special stages because the crowds are too large.
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:23 PM   #462
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Ever see the turn out for WRC in Argentina??
Can't say I have, only in Europe.

I guess I get caught up in the Thrilla in Manila type hype he brings... Pulls me in every time...



That's not to say he's not a Top Drawer Performance, upper stuff is covered with Riff Raff, Neduro, and various parts, jet kit, steering damper, suspension stickers....
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:30 AM   #463
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Robby said it yesterday, he needs the other cars to get used up and he would still have a chance for the win. If the two cancelled stages had been "raced" we'd have a completely different Dakar right now. Peterhansel agreed in his interview yesterday, the fewer race miles he puts on his car the better his odds are of winning.

There is no reason they couldn't have held everybody at WP4 yesterday for 3 or 4 hours while the water receded as it always does. As it was they were in camp by noon, I want to see the race run and teams dragging in at midnight expected to be at the next start by 5 am. Like Robby said, this "race" is supposed to be difficult and this isn't.
The fact is that RG has lost time to the leaders on every stage. deVillers had passed RG yesterday and got screwed because of the cancellation of the stage. SPH has almost an hour lead and there is no reason from him to take chances and throw the race away. Even if he had a problem. he still has "water carriers" on the mini team that would pretty much prevent losing enough time for RG to get ahead. You don't win The Dakar waiting for your competition to DNF.

"I would be leading if I could get my 5 hours back"
"I could win if those 18 cars ahead of me broke"

Really???? WTF????
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:57 AM   #464
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The fact is that RG has lost time to the leaders on every stage. deVillers had passed RG yesterday and got screwed because of the cancellation of the stage. SPH has almost an hour lead and there is no reason from him to take chances and throw the race away. Even if he had a problem. he still has "water carriers" on the mini team that would pretty much prevent losing enough time for RG to get ahead. You don't win The Dakar waiting for your competition to DNF.

"I would be leading if I could get my 5 hours back"
"I could win if those 18 cars ahead of me broke"

Really???? WTF????
Really, yes really.
I'm pretty sure there hasn't been 18 cars drop out at this point, and sure that more won't drop out before it's over. And maybe some of them have even lost over 3 hours in a stage
REALLY????

It's a RACE, and if I remember right ( that's subject to error for sure) Robbie drove right around deVillers yesterday, then the favor was repaid, that happens in a LOT of races. Problem is the race was "neutered" before that happened.

SPH is ahead and breathing easier now because Nasser dropped out. Really????



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Old 01-17-2013, 11:08 AM   #465
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The other night while watching the NBC report 33 vehicles went out in one day. This late in the race I think attrition certainly still is an issue.
As much as I'd love to see it I wouldn't be betting on Robby for the win.
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