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Old 01-17-2013, 12:36 PM   #31
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So, do you just call it passing when riding the center line then?

Yeah, I guess so. So if a rider is trying to make a pass while cars are flying at him at 60 mph (plus, whatever speed he's travelling at), if he doesn't die he'll earn a nice Reckless Driving citation. Unless he kills someone, in which case, I'll be rooting for "Vehicular Manslaughter."



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Old 01-17-2013, 12:52 PM   #32
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You need to convince the car / truck drivers that filtering / lane sharing is advantageous for THEM, not the bikes.
Spoonfeed them PSAs about how
"Sharing reduces congestion and you get home earlier."
"Let them (the bikes) get out of your way."
"Moving out of your way so you can get ahead."

Only by convincing the drivers that Bikers will do this 'inconvenience" for their benefit will there be acceptance.

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Old 01-17-2013, 01:01 PM   #33
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You need to convince the car / truck drivers that filtering / lane sharing is advantageous for THEM, not the bikes.
New research indicates motorcycle commuting reduces traffic congestion and emissions
The study, which was presented at the Association des Constructeurs Européens de Motocycles (ACEM) 2012 Conference in Brussels, found that if 10 percent of all private cars were replaced by motorcycles in the traffic flow of the test area, total time losses for all vehicles decreased by 40 percent and total emissions reduced by 6 percent (1 percent from the different traffic composition of more emission-reduced motorcycles and 5 percent from avoided traffic congestion). A 25 percent modal shift from cars to motorcycles was found to eliminate congestion entirely.
http://www.gizmag.com/motorcycles-re...gestion/21420/
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Old 01-17-2013, 01:04 PM   #34
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Old 01-17-2013, 01:54 PM   #35
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New research indicates motorcycle commuting reduces traffic congestion and emissions
The study, which was presented at the Association des Constructeurs Européens de Motocycles (ACEM) 2012 Conference in Brussels, found that if 10 percent of all private cars were replaced by motorcycles in the traffic flow of the test area, total time losses for all vehicles decreased by 40 percent and total emissions reduced by 6 percent (1 percent from the different traffic composition of more emission-reduced motorcycles and 5 percent from avoided traffic congestion). A 25 percent modal shift from cars to motorcycles was found to eliminate congestion entirely.
http://www.gizmag.com/motorcycles-re...gestion/21420/
good to see there was a newer study.

I'm sure its 205, but the easiest way to explain it to cagers - imagine the road as a 5 gallon bucket. Fill it with baseballs to represent cars. The bucket can only carry X baseballs ay any given time. Now pour marbles in the bucket to represent motorcycles. They fill the small spaces where a baseball won't fit. The remove a couple "cars" since some drivers have switched to riding and everyone has more space and the entire road is more efficient.


I'm sure there's a write-up that explains it better, but that should get the point across
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Old 01-17-2013, 04:16 PM   #36
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I think one big obstacle in the US is that it intuitively APPEARS to be a pretty dangerous thing to do. I used to think so myself and swore I'd never do it, even in CA. Then I got stuck on the Santa Monica Freeway at 5pm on a Friday. After seeing about 10 or 15 bikes go by while splitting I decided to give it a try. The rest is history.
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:41 PM   #37
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Old 01-17-2013, 06:07 PM   #38
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Old 01-17-2013, 06:10 PM   #39
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Motorcyclists need to start doing it regularly, in large numbers; the single biggest thing to train car drivers to it (which is the main thing) is to get used "being filtered past". No one is going to flash their lights or get into a fight at the lights when 100 motorcyclists come past them on their commute. If it's just one lone rider, the psychos will take umbrage at your refusal to waste your life sat in traffic, irrespective of what the law may say on the matter.
This is the best answer. Start doing it at red lights, then progress to freeways. Just do it!

Several years ago when I started doing it here in Texas, people would get outraged, and it seems like I was the only one doing it. Now I see it more and more often, and cagers seem to be less bothered by it. If there is a wreck on the freeway you will actually see several bikes doing it now. Many a time I have split by a bike, only to see him get behind me and start splitting too. I know we have a lot of Californians moving here, me thinks they are bringing their bad habits with them!
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:49 PM   #40
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And, at the start of every meeting, I put my helmet on the table where the committee is sitting. It's subliminal, but I do it to send a message that there are motorcyclists in the community
That's a huge part of it. Being one of them, one who happens to ride a motorcycle.

I expect that I will show up to make my case at the various community boards and the State House in a full textile suit, high-vis vest, and FF helmet. While I am talking, I will strip down to my regular business suit, at which point, I will look just like one of them.
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:02 AM   #41
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Like this one?



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Old 01-18-2013, 07:43 AM   #42
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^^^ is that our little native darla?
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Old 01-18-2013, 07:45 AM   #43
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NO. Darla is not that chunky.

Is that BobbySands on the back of the Yellow bike?
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Is that BobbySands on the back of the Yellow bike?
No, Bobby's a bit thinner....






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Like this one?

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She may not be the sharpest pencil in the drawer, butt she duz have a purdie mouf!
Mrs. Giffords isn't running for president any time soon and is unfortunately taking a hiatus from politics after some dumbass shot her in the head, but when she comes back, who knows? She's a fellow rider. Here's to a full recovery.
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