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Old 01-18-2013, 10:16 AM   #26866
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on the flip side of that, I was reading, a company like Specialized, there's a whole series of bikes that /look/ like the same frame with different grade components but in fact, they send the design specs to 3-4 different frame makers in asia, then the one that comes back the nicest goes into the Comp, then the middle one to the Elite, and the uglier one to the base model. so all three models have the same frame DESIGN, but different makers with different levels of quality control to hit different price points.
Any chance you could dig up a link? I'd love to check that out. (Makes sense from an economic standpoint as well.)
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:33 AM   #26867
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Any chance you could dig up a link? I'd love to check that out. (Makes sense from an economic standpoint as well.)
I don't recall where I read it.
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:16 AM   #26868
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Any chance you could dig up a link? I'd love to check that out. (Makes sense from an economic standpoint as well.)
http://cyclingiq.com/2012/02/14/shad...rtner-paradox/
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:20 PM   #26869
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Thanks!

That led me to the Vertical Limit series at the same site and way more than I ever needed to know about bike manufacturing and marketing.

http://cyclingiq.com/2011/11/03/vert...nder-pressure/
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:59 PM   #26870
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Just got back from 4ish hours on the bike. Flat. No headwind. Nope. None at all.

...and if you believe that, I've got this great bridge!

I'm tired.

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Old 01-18-2013, 06:57 PM   #26871
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just a quick question, seems alot of the bikes I'm looking at in my price range have the same frame, or at least the same design? I'm thinking they are all coming out of the same factory in china and just getting different stickers slapped on them. I'm not saying that is always a bad thing, since I'm not gonna shell out thousands for something without an engine, just that they all do look VERY similar.
If you're looking at a bike at the "thousands" price point, what are you looking at?
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Old 01-18-2013, 07:08 PM   #26872
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Spent 3 hours on the mtb trails today... with a Stihl chainsaw. Lugging that think around was like . Now I feel like . An external frame pack would have come in handy. Forearms and shoulders are shot.
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Old 01-19-2013, 05:34 AM   #26873
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Spent 3 hours on the mtb trails today... with a Stihl chainsaw. Lugging that think around was like . Now I feel like . An external frame pack would have come in handy. Forearms and shoulders are shot.
There's a backpack out there that has a chainsaw holder built into it. The brand slips me, at the moment.
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Old 01-19-2013, 05:59 AM   #26874
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just a quick question, seems alot of the bikes I'm looking at in my price range have the same frame, or at least the same design? I'm thinking they are all coming out of the same factory in china and just getting different stickers slapped on them. I'm not saying that is always a bad thing, since I'm not gonna shell out thousands for something without an engine, just that they all do look VERY similar.
Probably the most obvious reason they all look so similar is that decades of experimenting with different frames and suspension designs have taught engineers the basic 'formula' guaranteed to produce the best results. After that, it's just a matter of testing and refining it using sophisticated computer analysis. In any type of design, if you begin with a well known set of engineering criteria which everyone else is using, the results will necessarily be very similar. In some cases they may be so close as to appear identical.
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Old 01-19-2013, 07:48 PM   #26875
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5.5 hrs in the saddle today for 100.4 mi. I had 95 mi. when I got to the house, so I rode around the neighborhood to make up the difference. Garbage miles, but I really wanted my first century.

Everything from my navel to my knees is on strike. I'll be in my bunk.
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Old 01-19-2013, 07:50 PM   #26876
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Spent 3 hours on the mtb trails today... with a Stihl chainsaw. Lugging that think around was like . Now I feel like . An external frame pack would have come in handy. Forearms and shoulders are shot.
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:03 PM   #26877
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There's a backpack out there that has a chainsaw holder built into it. The brand slips me, at the moment.
Dakine?
http://www.dakine.com/p/bike/packs/m...lders-pack-29l
It is kind of pricey.

The external frame pack is not a bad way to go.
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Old 01-20-2013, 08:48 AM   #26878
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Does anyone else bemoan the loss of grease nipples?

Does anyone else bemoan the loss of grease nipples? Fresh grease in from time to time pushes out dirty grease and provides a barrier from water and dust ingress

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Old 01-20-2013, 03:18 PM   #26879
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Does anyone else bemoan the loss of grease nipples? Fresh grease in from time to time pushes out dirty grease and provides a barrier from water and dust ingress

maybe if your ENTIRE BB is full of grease, *AND* all the vent holes to the other frame tubes are plugged.

and with modern sealed cartridge bearings? hah. would be useless.
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:20 PM   #26880
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I don't miss cottered cranks, either.
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