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Old 01-18-2013, 05:54 PM   #3991
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How are the test articles obtaining 47 mpg at 70 mph?

I just finished a 200 mile ride from Savannah to Daytona and got 67.42, with my glove box loaded and doing 75 mph in a headwind. I'm also 6'3".

Maybe those weren't fully broken in?
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Old 01-18-2013, 07:24 PM   #3992
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Probably just forgot to shift into sixth.
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Old 01-18-2013, 08:39 PM   #3993
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been wondering who is 1st going to play with electronics (re-flash ECU) on this bike and bump up the rev limiter to see if there is more power there? the parts have to able to handle higher rpms from a modern mfg standpoint.


Ya know, with an ECU flash, Power commander, can, air filter and 15 tooth CS sprocket,
I bet this nifty bike would have a nice boost. Prolly close to 60bhp.
I mean if it's there, why leave it on the table gathering dust.
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Old 01-18-2013, 08:42 PM   #3994
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Ya know, with an ECU flash, Power commander, can, air filter and 15 tooth CS sprocket,
I bet this nifty bike would have a nice boost. Prolly close to 60bhp.
I mean if it's there, why leave it on the table gathering dust.
Changing gearing does not affect power output in any way
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Old 01-18-2013, 08:47 PM   #3995
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Changing gearing does not affect power output in any way
I didn't say that.
I said all the things I mentioned would give it a nice boost and maybe 60bhp.
Going one tooth down on the CS would merely help acceleration w/o any additional bhp.
Thanks for the clarification, though.
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Old 01-18-2013, 08:58 PM   #3996
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I think with a 10% increase in power output you might just forget about changing gearing, and opt for fuel economy and fewer vibes at speed instead
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:14 PM   #3997
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I think with a 10% increase in power output you might just forget about changing gearing, and opt for fuel economy and fewer vibes at speed instead
Prolly. My power needs are modest. My last ride was a KLR650.
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:17 PM   #3998
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Prolly. My power needs are modest. My last ride was a KLR650.
The NC700X actually displaces 10cc more than the engine in my car. The power of my car is not worth discussing.
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:45 AM   #3999
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Ya know, with an ECU flash, Power commander, can, air filter and 15 tooth CS sprocket,
I bet this nifty bike would have a nice boost. Prolly close to 60bhp.
I mean if it's there, why leave it on the table gathering dust.
It keeps coming up so it must be important to people. It being a need for more horsepower but I don't understand why it's needed when it is at odds with the design goals of this motorcycle. If the people buying this bike wanted more horsepower there are what, six or eight direct rivals in the middleweight class all with more horsepower out of the box. Honda choose a different direction but some folks just don't see that.
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Old 01-19-2013, 04:55 AM   #4000
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Ya know, with an ECU flash, Power commander, can, air filter and 15 tooth CS sprocket,
I bet this nifty bike would have a nice boost. Prolly close to 60bhp.
I mean if it's there, why leave it on the table gathering dust.
That would be a 20% (and more) increase.

PC V is a nice toy, but it's no turbo.
I don't think you'd get over 4-5hp.
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Old 01-19-2013, 05:37 AM   #4001
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It keeps coming up so it must be important to people. It being a need for more horsepower but I don't understand why it's needed when it is at odds with the design goals of this motorcycle. If the people buying this bike wanted more horsepower there are what, six or eight direct rivals in the middleweight class all with more horsepower out of the box. Honda choose a different direction but some folks just don't see that.
I didn't say it was needed and I disagree with those who say it is.
I just said it would be nice to have.
Calm down guys.
I had tons of fun on my 34bhp bike.

I bet a 10lb bottle of NOS would be fun, though.


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Old 01-19-2013, 05:44 AM   #4002
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It keeps coming up so it must be important to people. It being a need for more horsepower but I don't understand why it's needed when it is at odds with the design goals of this motorcycle. If the people buying this bike wanted more horsepower there are what, six or eight direct rivals in the middleweight class all with more horsepower out of the box. Honda choose a different direction but some folks just don't see that.
+ 10 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Plus any mods would likely change the sweet flat torque "curve" the stock bike has. Most of those other bikes need to rev to 10,500 to make the extra HP, the NC engine design is not based on rpm........it is based on .long stroke and torque.
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Old 01-19-2013, 05:46 AM   #4003
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That would be a 20% (and more) increase.

PC V is a nice toy, but it's no turbo.
I don't think you'd get over 4-5hp.
Never thought of a fuel controller as a toy.
And yes, it's no turbo. Whatever.

Otay. lets have fun with math.

PCV 4bhp
Can 3bhp
Airbox shennaigans 3bhp
ECU flash-+500rpm 2bhp
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12bhp +/-1bhp

Plus 48bhp stock = around 60bhp
No it's not a turbo increase in power. Never said it was.

That plus a 15 tooth CS would get you close to Wee Strom acceleration. Or not.
It's not a big deal, but it is what it is. Like I said, a nice boost for a great bike.
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Old 01-19-2013, 07:21 AM   #4004
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It keeps coming up so it must be important to people. It being a need for more horsepower but I don't understand why it's needed when it is at odds with the design goals of this motorcycle. If the people buying this bike wanted more horsepower there are what, six or eight direct rivals in the middleweight class all with more horsepower out of the box. Honda choose a different direction but some folks just don't see that.
Some folks see that and still want to see if they can make this bike a better average of what they want. I'd love to see what tweaks would do to power, acceleration, feel, handling, economy, etc. Every bike, IMO, is only a good place to start. Start at the best starting point you can find for your goal and see where you can go. Different folks look for different things and that's cool. I'm interested in exhaust, suspension, and engine/FI/ECU mods myself. If we can get more performance and fun w/o killing economy, that'd be sweet.
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Never thought of a fuel controller as a toy.
And yes, it's no turbo. Whatever.

Otay. lets have fun with math.

PCV 4bhp
Can 3bhp
Airbox shennaigans 3bhp
ECU flash-+500rpm 2bhp
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12bhp +/-1bhp

Plus 48bhp stock = around 60bhp
No it's not a turbo increase in power. Never said it was.

That plus a 15 tooth CS would get you close to Wee Strom acceleration. Or not.
It's not a big deal, but it is what it is. Like I said, a nice boost for a great bike.
I wasn't aware that the 'PC' adds power.
It just makes the delivery different, removes the flat spots etc.

Even 3hp (edit: for exhaust) is IMHO optimistic on the NC, and there's no "extra juice" beyond
the current red line, it's been discussed so many times in this thread already.

3hp airbox? Again optimistic.

No way.
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