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Old 01-20-2013, 01:06 PM   #61
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Looks like we lost the OP 4 pages ago. I wonder if he took them beads off by now and either try riding without balancing or balanced with weights.
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:12 PM   #62
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When I balance a wheel/tire assembly with weights, I KNOW it's in balance and can prove it.

When someone pours plastic beads in a tire, they HOPE it's in balance, but can't prove it.

Go to a pro race sometime and see if any of the factory tire busters use beads. They don't.
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Old 01-20-2013, 02:15 PM   #63
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Ok.

Since I'm on the side of it didn't work for me. How do I get the beads out of the tube to keep from buying new ones?
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Old 01-20-2013, 07:50 PM   #64
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Well ill jump in here for the heck of it. I run dynabeads on my Tiger. Used them in a set of kenda big blocks, 150/70-17, 110/80-19. I installed the recommended amount. I never had any vibrations of any kind even at speeds of 100mph. The set of big blocks went 5000 miles and am changing them now. Even wear patterns on both tires. All that with tubeless tires.
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Old 01-22-2013, 08:04 AM   #65
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When I balance a wheel/tire assembly with weights, I KNOW it's in balance and can prove it.

When someone pours plastic beads in a tire, they HOPE it's in balance, but can't prove it.

Go to a pro race sometime and see if any of the factory tire busters use beads. They don't.
I used to race cars & can readily attest that "they" were not a collection of all the genius's in the world!
I've run the beads for a few years & have been getting normal wear & smooth riding. I reuse them, they're easy to install & not so complicated from there to say , why not? As to removing them from a tube w/o a knife, you've got me there...
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Old 01-22-2013, 08:50 AM   #66
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I used to race cars & can readily attest that "they" were not a collection of all the genius's in the world!
I've run the beads for a few years & have been getting normal wear & smooth riding. I reuse them, they're easy to install & not so complicated from there to say , why not? As to removing them from a tube w/o a knife, you've got me there...
Race car tires and wheels need to be dynamically balanced because of their width, and you can't use a simple static balance stand.

Might as well cut the tube open because new tires deserve new tubes anyway.
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:01 AM   #67
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Might as well cut the tube open because new tires deserve new tubes anyway.
I've got two sets of tubes for my bike. The original tubes, 2004 bike, and a HD set I bought for spares. No problems in 40,000 miles...
I'm still running the original tubes in my Mtn. bike. It's a 1992 model.
Tubes don't disintegrate after one or two uses but if you feel they do I'll gladly send you my snail mail address and you can recycle them.
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Old 01-23-2013, 06:47 AM   #68
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Race car tires and wheels need to be dynamically balanced because of their width, and you can't use a simple static balance stand.

Might as well cut the tube open because new tires deserve new tubes anyway.
Dyna beads are stated to not work by the seller for wide/low profile tires. Many car tires these days are in that category. I remember them saying they don't disperse across the width properly for good balancing.
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Old 01-23-2013, 07:43 AM   #69
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Dyna beads are stated to not work by the seller for wide/low profile tires. Many car tires these days are in that category. I remember them saying they don't disperse across the width properly for good balancing.
I was speaking towards balancing with weights, not beads.

I can balance a motorcycle wheel in 10 minutes using weights and see no need to screw around with plastic pellets that would take longer and make a mess the next time I had to break it down.
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Old 01-24-2013, 05:55 AM   #70
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I really enjoy bead threads. They are ceramic, if "Dyna Beads" the air gun pellets are the plastic. As to making a mess, that's hardly the case as these pellets are very tiny-similar in size to maybe #12 shot like's in a .22 birdshot shell-definitely smaller than #9 shot,as an e.g.. I find it easy to recycle them. If I drop a few , no big deal & if your shop is like mine a stray ceramic bead thats around 1/32" in diameter won't cause much problem. I do dislike hunting for those stray bearing balls that escape from MC steering heads!
I reweigh what I catch(I dump them on a plastic scrap when changing tires) & use over. Takes little effort to lay there on a creeper & tap the clear plastic tube as they roll into the stem. My tires are smooth for the life of the tire, no matter the wear pattern.
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How about the trucker that said they use Golf Balls in the steering on their tires?????
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Old 07-07-2013, 08:53 AM   #72
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Old 07-07-2013, 10:54 AM   #73
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How about the trucker that said they use Golf Balls in the steering on their tires?????
I heard that mining trucks use bowling balls for balance..........
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Old 07-07-2013, 11:11 AM   #74
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Hi, I've mount a Conti Trail Attack in my 12GS and I've balanced them with Dyna Beads. I put 2 Oz in the rear tyre and 2 Oz in the front tyre becuse a I read this on the web http://www.innovativebalancing.com/c...otorcycleChart
From 0 - 130Km/h I don't have problems but from 130Km/h to I have high speed vibrations like a palpitating movement.
Why ? Anyone knows the answer ?
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MN or MP– use 110 mm width
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These codes are typical for Harleys but can be for any tire. The codes do not go beyond 150mm in width. With these tires, the first number of the tire size is not the actual width, it is just a number. The M-code is what tells you the actual width.
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Note: Filtered valve cores do not fit all stems. They require a seat 1-1/4" down in the stem. If you cannot use them, simply rotate the tire so the valve stem is about the 6:00 position, then give the valve stem a quick shot of air prior to checking pressure.
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Old 02-07-2014, 05:02 AM   #75
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I used them in my 2009 Harley Street Glide and got a real bad vibration around 60MPH and up.
I hate how I'm about to sound like another snob, but frankly, when I read this, I can't help but imagine the endless possibilities that make a Harley vibrate badly, and the tire balance is not high on that list.

I could tell you stories, but they're not dynabead related.
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