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Old 01-20-2013, 08:06 PM   #31
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I know this is way to simple but check the position of the ON/OFF KILL switch----- HEY it's happened before---- Don't ask
But it would it turn over then?
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Old 01-20-2013, 09:42 PM   #32
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But it would it turn over then?
Naw, as a matter of fact if you hit that switch the lights on the dash won't even come on and you'll think you have a dead battery.
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Old 01-20-2013, 11:10 PM   #33
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Opps duh: I somehow read stator as starter, sorry
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Old 01-20-2013, 11:38 PM   #34
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Bump!

Ok, rewind... Please state the simptoms and what was rulled out. It's simpler to keep track
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Old 01-21-2013, 02:58 AM   #35
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Turn the key and it everything lights up as it should.
Battery fully charged and being tended.
Fuel pump and ABS whir on key on. Every fuse has been checked and tested. All good.
Hit the starter and it cranks and cranks, but won't catch fire.
It's not fuel. I've run out of gas before and I know what that's like, the bike won't crank if its not getting gas.
Pulled the plug and looked at the electrodes as the bike was cranking. Where you'd expect to see a spark, there isn't.
Whatever died and is not sending current to the spark plugs, it happened as the bike was parked while I was at work.
Yes, I did entertain the idea that some asshat decided to fuck with it, but I've , gone over it carefully and I can't find a cut wire or empty connector anywhere.
Looks like I've got to bite the bullet and take it in.
Appreciate all the ideas guys.
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:30 AM   #36
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Diagram??

Do you have an electric diagram in full color and high resolution? My dad's an electrical engineer. I can ask him to take a look.
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:59 AM   #37
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Pulled the plug and looked at the electrodes as the bike was cranking. Where you'd expect to see a spark, there isn't.
The bit in bold isn't something I'd normally expect to read/hear (but maybe you just talk/type different to me ), so I'm going to ask anyway:

Is the spark plug earthed while you're cranking?

I couldn't find anything posted earlier to confirm it..
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:09 AM   #38
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+1 on the earthing.
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:27 AM   #39
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grab the plug, hold on to the cylinder head and give'er a turn! That's how you make shure it gets juice.
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:44 AM   #40
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Cyath,

It looks like a lot of bases have been covered here. I do wonder about the "Lack Of Spark"?

Meaning,, that the contact end is a good ways up inside the boot, Did you use a screw driver or something like it stuck up inside the plug wire, then try to go to ground to see that spark is present?

I'm not questioning your mechanical skill but sometimes it the simplest things that get overlooked.

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Old 01-21-2013, 10:16 AM   #41
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Turn the key and it everything lights up as it should.
Battery fully charged and being tended.
Fuel pump and ABS whir on key on. Every fuse has been checked and tested. All good.
Hit the starter and it cranks and cranks, but won't catch fire.
It's not fuel. I've run out of gas before and I know what that's like, the bike won't crank if its not getting gas.
Pulled the plug and looked at the electrodes as the bike was cranking. Where you'd expect to see a spark, there isn't.
Whatever died and is not sending current to the spark plugs, it happened as the bike was parked while I was at work.
Yes, I did entertain the idea that some asshat decided to fuck with it, but I've , gone over it carefully and I can't find a cut wire or empty connector anywhere.
Looks like I've got to bite the bullet and take it in.
Appreciate all the ideas guys.
Maybe we're using different definitions of the same word, but fuel should have nothing to do with whether it cranks or not. The electric starter motor is what cranks the engine.

As others have mentioned, make sure you're properly checking the plugs for spark.

After a lot of cranking, pull the plugs and see if they're wet/smell like fuel. I still kinda think fuel is the issue here. I only say this because you just had part of your fuel delivery system worked on.
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Old 01-21-2013, 10:26 AM   #42
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Yeah, once he determines that it sparks...ground the plug!...the old spray a little carb cleaner/ether/atomized fuel into the airbox trick will tell you its a fuel system problem.

My moneys still on a burnt up sensor or ecu.
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Old 01-21-2013, 11:26 AM   #43
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Yeah, once he determines that it sparks...ground the plug!...the old spray a little carb cleaner/ether/atomized fuel into the airbox trick will tell you its a fuel system problem.

My moneys still on a burnt up sensor or ecu.
In Romania, we use an old sock. We soak it with gas and put it in front of the airbox intake
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Old 01-21-2013, 11:44 AM   #44
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Have you tried reconnecting all the connection's? From the battery terminal to the light socket's? not just visually check, but disconnect and reconnect.

The light socket's are a bit much, but you get the idea- TPS sensor, EGU, MAS, etc...

And a dab of dielectric grease.
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Old 01-21-2013, 12:55 PM   #45
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Connect it vvith the tuneecu. Maybe it ill shovv something.
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