ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Riding > Regional forums > Pacific Northwet - Where it's green. And wet.
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 01-21-2013, 01:53 PM   #1
tod701 OP
Studly Adventurer
 
tod701's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Location: Stanwood
Oddometer: 875
SB5097 - Allow spouses to share hours to earn free D-Pass

SB5097 would allow spouses to pool their volunteer hours for the purpose of earning a free d-pass.

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=5097&year=2013


Its getting a hearing before the Senate Natural Resources committee 24Jan2013 and I recommend supporting it.
If you like the idea, let the committee member know how you feel.

Here are the email addresses of the committee members:

kirk.person@leg.wa.gov
john.smith@leg.wa.gov
christine.rolfes@leg.wa.gov
jim.hargrove@leg.wa.gov
mike.hewitt@leg.wa.gov
adam.kline@leg.wa.gov
linda.parlette@leg.wa.gov
__________________
Tod
NMA, WOHVA, BRC, AMA, NRA
tod701 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013, 12:43 PM   #2
81forest
Studly Adventurer
 
81forest's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Location: Seattle
Oddometer: 592
Great idea, and thanks again for devoting the time and energy to deal with the legislative process. We all owe you one!
81forest is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013, 02:31 PM   #3
ADVwnbe
Gnarly Adventurer
 
ADVwnbe's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Location: Cascade Mountains
Oddometer: 109
yeah but

That's great except for the 24 hours of volunteer time required. Three 8 hour days worth of volunteering for a $30 pass???

That's $1.25 an hour! I know for a fact that volunteer hours are calculated at the value of the work they are doing and nothing is valued that low, except maybe babysitting.
__________________
________________________
2000 DRZ400s
ADVwnbe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013, 04:56 PM   #4
81husky
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Location: North Central Washington
Oddometer: 107
A better idea would be to get rid of the Discover Pass entirely. I know, I'm delusional.
81husky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013, 07:42 PM   #5
tod701 OP
Studly Adventurer
 
tod701's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Location: Stanwood
Oddometer: 875
Quote:
Originally Posted by ADVwnbe View Post
That's great except for the 24 hours of volunteer time required. Three 8 hour days worth of volunteering for a $30 pass???

That's $1.25 an hour! I know for a fact that volunteer hours are calculated at the value of the work they are doing and nothing is valued that low, except maybe babysitting.
16 hours is the USFS standard and what I suggested.
Other people wanted it higher than 24.
Some because to them volunteers cut into government jobs.
24 was as good a deal as could be cut at the time.
__________________
Tod
NMA, WOHVA, BRC, AMA, NRA
tod701 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013, 07:48 PM   #6
tod701 OP
Studly Adventurer
 
tod701's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Location: Stanwood
Oddometer: 875
Quote:
Originally Posted by 81forest View Post
Great idea, and thanks again for devoting the time and energy to deal with the legislative process. We all owe you one!
Gee thanks - I got another D-Pass bill I wrote myself in the pipeline aimed at the current misapplication of the requirements concerning vehicles with both street plates and ORV permits.

Should be introduced in a few days, stay tuned, I'll need your help to get it done.
__________________
Tod
NMA, WOHVA, BRC, AMA, NRA
tod701 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013, 07:51 PM   #7
tod701 OP
Studly Adventurer
 
tod701's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Location: Stanwood
Oddometer: 875
Quote:
Originally Posted by 81husky View Post
A better idea would be to get rid of the Discover Pass entirely. I know, I'm delusional.
No, public access to public land should be free.

If need be, a pass limited to developed facilities that cost the state tax money to provide might be OK, but that is where I would draw the line if it was up to me.
__________________
Tod
NMA, WOHVA, BRC, AMA, NRA
tod701 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013, 08:02 PM   #8
Eldon
950 ADV
 
Eldon's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Location: WA
Oddometer: 481
I'm all on your new D-pass proposal.

Do you know why only $2.40 of the $30 we spend goes to DNR land?
It's really funny because 98% I'm required to dislay the D-pass I'm on DNR land, but they only get 8% of the funds.
If you know how they came up with this number let me know.
I sure wish they could figure out how to use my fuel tax refunds and ORV tabs to support my recreation. I was told by Rep. Sam Hunt and Rep. Karen Fraser that they needed those funds to balance their budget. I'm glad to hear how willing they are to take our funding to support their poor budgeting abilities and spending habits. It's good to be here to bail them out.
Anyway, happy trails!!
__________________
05 KTM 950 ADV. Black (Black ones aren't faster. Fast riders just buy them)

06 YZ250 Smoker
00 KTM LC-4 - Sold
93 CR125 - Sold
89 CR80 - Sold
84 XR80 - Sold
74 Honda MR50 - Sold and I wish I hadn't
Eldon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013, 08:20 PM   #9
tod701 OP
Studly Adventurer
 
tod701's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Location: Stanwood
Oddometer: 875
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldon View Post
Do you know why only $2.40 of the $30 we spend goes to DNR land?!
Yep

The DNR was cool with getting $2.15, but some of us went against their wishes and got their cut raised from 7.5% to 8%.

Not lots, but easily mid six figures or more a year for public recreation on DNR managed public land.

Has the DNR said thank you for bringing them more coin?

Nope.

Go figure.
__________________
Tod
NMA, WOHVA, BRC, AMA, NRA
tod701 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013, 08:38 PM   #10
Eldon
950 ADV
 
Eldon's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Location: WA
Oddometer: 481
It's sad that DNR will most likely only use these extra funds on enforcement and not on trail expansion.
__________________
05 KTM 950 ADV. Black (Black ones aren't faster. Fast riders just buy them)

06 YZ250 Smoker
00 KTM LC-4 - Sold
93 CR125 - Sold
89 CR80 - Sold
84 XR80 - Sold
74 Honda MR50 - Sold and I wish I hadn't
Eldon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013, 09:14 PM   #11
12120
Indenturedx5
 
12120's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Location: SW Washington USA
Oddometer: 347
Pissed Piss on the pass

Only reason I can see to buy a Discovery Pass is so if I see a enforcement officer I can give them a big peace of my mind. Without being in violation of their extortion rule.

Chris
__________________
If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tatics are wrong.
'83 XL 600r
12120 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2013, 11:17 AM   #12
tod701 OP
Studly Adventurer
 
tod701's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Location: Stanwood
Oddometer: 875
Senate Natural Resources Committee passed this bill.

Next step, Senate Rules Committee.
__________________
Tod
NMA, WOHVA, BRC, AMA, NRA
tod701 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 06:04 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014