CCM 450 Adventure - Page 4

aviatorbdm · 01-25-2013, 11:04 AM

Love it! Bring it!

Fishfund · 01-25-2013, 03:50 PM

I want to know more about this engine.

whizzo · 01-26-2013, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Fishfund

I want to know more about this engine.

I'm not really worried about the engine if it really is a BMW (now used in Husqvarnas) item. I'm more worried about the price...

mtntrails · 01-26-2013, 03:52 AM

Looking at the specs for the Husky TE449, it has been upgraded to a 6-speed tranny, but all 4 valves are titanium which does not bode well for general longevity or reasonable adjustment intervals if the bike is going to ridden as a lightweight ADV tourer. I could not find specs for oil capacity. Given the TE449's "hard enduro" mission, I'm guessing less than 1.5 qts.

I look forward to seeing the specs for the CCM - there's certainly a lot of potential there.

jasonmt · 01-26-2013, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mtntrails

Looking at the specs for the Husky TE449, it has been upgraded to a 6-speed tranny, but all 4 valves are titanium which does not bode well for general longevity or reasonable adjustment intervals if the bike is going to ridden as a lightweight ADV tourer. I could not find specs for oil capacity. Given the TE449's "hard enduro" mission, I'm guessing less than 1.5 qts.

I look forward to seeing the specs for the CCM - there's certainly a lot of potential there.

The TE/TXC 449/511 6 speed transmission has a narrower gear spread (2.286 - 0.917, 2.49 spread) then the 5 speed transmission (2.46 - 0.88, 2.80 spread) in the BMW G450X. Compared to say a TE 610/630 with ratios from 2.615 - 0.769 and a spread of 3.40 neither is really what I would consider "wide ratio". There is a reason I have a TE 630 for a "dual purpose" bike and a TXC 449 that is marginally street legal where I live as a "dirt bike with plates"...

TE/TXC 449/511 has a 1.15L oil capacity with a filter change so ~1.2 quarts if my conversion works out.

a1fa · 01-26-2013, 04:11 PM

I may have to keep my G450X for adventure purposes.

Motorfiets · 01-26-2013, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by a1fa

I may have to keep my G450X for adventure purposes.

Emmbeedee · 01-26-2013, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by a1fa

I may have to keep my G450X for adventure purposes.

We just made the last payment on our G.

KLRmonkey · 01-26-2013, 05:25 PM

Is there really much chance we'd see a US version?
So many promises over the years, only to find out it's another internet myth!

Have to wait and see - should we start a pool on this?

tinbasher · 01-28-2013, 11:39 AM

Perhaps the solution lies with the redneck. Find a frame suspension combo you like and add a motor you can live with. Kind of the rat rod idea. I ride a 640 adventure I love, but don't love c.omplexity of motor services. Think a guy could slide a dr 650 in there or XR .. Just register as before no problemo. Just thinkink?

Murf2 · 01-28-2013, 11:46 AM

Now it's Harley's fault the Jap Dual Sports are too heavy?

Murf2

dashmoto · 01-28-2013, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KLRmonkey

Is there really much chance we'd see a US version?
So many promises over the years, only to find out it's another internet myth!

Have to wait and see - should we start a pool on this?

This is CCM. They'll probably go bust (again) in the time it takes to ship a crate full of bikes across the Atlantic

ZtoXS · 01-28-2013, 01:50 PM

I have both 404 and 644 D/S CCM's and can't fault them. Have always considered changing the 644 up to adventure spec but getting the right bits to fit is an issue. This 450i could be the answer however there are a lot of questions that will only be answered once more detailed specs are released.

An adventure version will require (in my opinion) - wide ratio box, increased oil capacity and service intervals, greater fuel capacity than the trail versions 17 lts (up by say 7-8 Lts), comfortable seat and ride position, robust gear carrying capacity, a bit of rider weather protection and perhaps an enclosed chain just for the hell of it. Beware CCM - cost will make or break this bike.

As for it being released in Canada and or the America's, well, with the interest shown on the likes of here, lets hope the companies involved are 'listening' to both the specs required and potential demand.

2 SPOT · 01-28-2013, 02:38 PM

it would be interesting if a company like CCM did what KTM shoulda done so many years back with a 690 ADV.

MORT666 · 01-29-2013, 01:34 AM

Love it makes a change from the usual manufactures.

01-25-2013, 03:50 PM	#47
Fishfund Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2007 Location: Lansing, MI Oddometer: 492	I want to know more about this engine. __________________ RR: 3 months on a husky te610 RR: 25,000 miles with Luke and Nick www.lukeandnick.com

01-26-2013, 04:11 PM	#51
a1fa Riding Nomad™ Joined: Nov 2006 Location: Arkansas Oddometer: 12,717	I may have to keep my G450X for adventure purposes. __________________ Learn to ride. Ride to learn. FS: 1993 Suzuki DR350S (wide ratio 6 speed - street legal kickstart)

01-26-2013, 05:25 PM	#54
KLRmonkey Adventurer Joined: Jul 2012 Location: North Georgia Oddometer: 33	Beautiful bike. Adding to the wish list. Is there really much chance we'd see a US version? So many promises over the years, only to find out it's another internet myth! Have to wait and see - should we start a pool on this?

01-28-2013, 11:39 AM	#55
tinbasher Adventurer Joined: Jul 2007 Location: alberta foothills gravel everywhere Oddometer: 54	Perfect dual sport Perhaps the solution lies with the redneck. Find a frame suspension combo you like and add a motor you can live with. Kind of the rat rod idea. I ride a 640 adventure I love, but don't love c.omplexity of motor services. Think a guy could slide a dr 650 in there or XR .. Just register as before no problemo. Just thinkink?

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01-25-2013, 11:04 AM	#46
aviatorbdm Adventurer Joined: Aug 2008 Location: Wilsonville, OR Oddometer: 83	Love it! Bring it!

01-26-2013, 03:52 AM	#49
mtntrails Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jan 2006 Location: Mount Airy, MD Oddometer: 317	Looking at the specs for the Husky TE449, it has been upgraded to a 6-speed tranny, but all 4 valves are titanium which does not bode well for general longevity or reasonable adjustment intervals if the bike is going to ridden as a lightweight ADV tourer. I could not find specs for oil capacity. Given the TE449's "hard enduro" mission, I'm guessing less than 1.5 qts. I look forward to seeing the specs for the CCM - there's certainly a lot of potential there.

01-28-2013, 11:46 AM	#56
Murf2 Studly Adventurer Joined: Feb 2007 Location: Kansas Oddometer: 712	Now it's Harley's fault the Jap Dual Sports are too heavy? Murf2

01-28-2013, 01:50 PM	#58
ZtoXS I of the Strom Joined: Nov 2008 Location: Scotland, Gods back yard Oddometer: 13	I have both 404 and 644 D/S CCM's and can't fault them. Have always considered changing the 644 up to adventure spec but getting the right bits to fit is an issue. This 450i could be the answer however there are a lot of questions that will only be answered once more detailed specs are released. An adventure version will require (in my opinion) - wide ratio box, increased oil capacity and service intervals, greater fuel capacity than the trail versions 17 lts (up by say 7-8 Lts), comfortable seat and ride position, robust gear carrying capacity, a bit of rider weather protection and perhaps an enclosed chain just for the hell of it. Beware CCM - cost will make or break this bike. As for it being released in Canada and or the America's, well, with the interest shown on the likes of here, lets hope the companies involved are 'listening' to both the specs required and potential demand.

01-28-2013, 02:38 PM	#59
2 SPOT wannabe Joined: Dec 2005 Location: valley of the sunstroke, AZ Oddometer: 1,451	it would be interesting if a company like CCM did what KTM shoulda done so many years back with a 690 ADV.

01-29-2013, 01:34 AM	#60
MORT666 Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Aug 2009 Location: U.K Oddometer: 199	Love it makes a change from the usual manufactures.