The 2012 CRF250L thread - Page 108

Birdmove · 01-17-2013, 09:31 AM

I would guess Honda won't bring it to the US. I don't think they sold many of the 230cc version here. That would be too bad, as I like the SM models myself.

Spud Rider · 01-25-2013, 08:47 PM

I'll ask this question here, since it might be considered "blasphemy" in the "owner's thread."

Today I got my first chance to sit on a CRF250L. The saddle height is perfect for me, and I was impressed with many features of the bike. However, even with a perfect saddle height, the bike seemed to me to be a little top heavy. Has anyone compared the "top heaviness" of the CRF250L to either the KLX250S or the WR250R? I'm interested in knowing if one bike will tip over more easily in slow tight quarters, as well as knowing how well each bike handles at faster speeds.

Spud

trainman · 01-26-2013, 05:54 AM

Spud Rider, if you have read any of the reviews on these bikes you will know your answer. Most reviews said that the Honda felt lighter then the actual weight that it was, 320lbs.

John

Ed@Ford · 01-26-2013, 06:34 AM

SPUDRIDER:

I agree with John, all of the road tests had NO mention of topheavy on on these bikes. It WAS noted that the CRF front tire would wash out on pavement and especially offroad. Just like the crap tires on my KLR650. If your preference is offroad, a dunlop 606 on the front is probably a good choice. If you're into mostly onroad pavement and graded gravel roads, I went to Shinko 451(I think) on my KLR, and they are nice, and will go thru some pretty crappy stuff...which I generally try to avoid on my KLR. Although considered a 70/30 pavement/offroad tire, I find it in a lot of cases grippier on gravel than a 606. My ride bud has a WR250R with shinkos all around, and it will go thru almost any kind of loose stuff...as long as it's dry. Also...Shinkos are 40 some $$

strongbad · 01-26-2013, 09:06 AM

"Top heavy" isn't a bad thing. If you were balancing a broom in your hand, which end would you put up? The heavy end. All my bikes have handled better and felt more stable with a full tank of gas than empty.

Spud Rider · 01-26-2013, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trainman

Spud Rider, if you have read any of the reviews on these bikes you will know your answer. Most reviews said that the Honda felt lighter then the actual weight that it was, 320lbs.

John

I think I've read almost all of the reviews, John. Thank you for reminding me.

Spud

Spud Rider · 01-26-2013, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed@Ford

SPUDRIDER:

I agree with John, all of the road tests had NO mention of topheavy on on these bikes...

...My ride bud has a WR250R with shinkos all around, and it will go thru almost any kind of loose stuff...as long as it's dry. Also...Shinkos are 40 some $$

Thank you, Ed. Have you had a chance to ride your friend's WR250R? Is so, how does the Honda carry it's weight relative to the Yamaha?

Spud

DirtyBlackIrish · 01-26-2013, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by goondock

That is kinda what I heard as well. when i find out i will know.. I love the look and tidyness of this tail light but some joker sitting at a desk writing the rules is going to ruin it for me. oh well. i understand rules but back in the day when the rules were written they didnt have led's I am sure this turn signal/ tail light is way brighter than the stock bulbs..

oh well

I started looking around after I read this. I haven't found anything saying they must be amber or separate yet. Fact is some of the new trucks on the road only have red on our fleet vehicles. As for other laws I have no idea. I bought this light after my research. We'll see what happens.

Ed@Ford · 01-27-2013, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spud Rider

Thank you, Ed. Have you had a chance to ride your friend's WR250R? Is so, how does the Honda carry it's weight relative to the Yamaha?

Spud

Spud: Yes, have several hundred miles on the WRR (significantly modified suspension)...so far I have several FEET on my CRF riding from the front yard after unloading it from the truck, into my garage. The CRF is not tall or tippy.

Having said all this, today I went to the Cleveland motorcycle show today. Sat on lots of bikes. The CRF and the KLR650 were the only two bikes there that allow YOU to decide where your ass will be on the seat...everything else locked you into essentially one position. I HAVE made a proper decision buying this thing. Also...sat on a STOCK WR250R...tall, tippy, nasty, and if you think the CRF seat is ass-unfriendly, don't even get close to the WRR. With the WRR you are perched on top of what I consider an unpleasantly stiff top heavy bike, with a seat like an oak plank. My buddy has spent $$$$ to make his WRR much less tall, hard and nasty than stock.

Spud Rider · 01-27-2013, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed@Ford

Spud: Yes, have several hundred miles on the WRR (significantly modified suspension)...so far I have several FEET on my CRF riding from the front yard after unloading it from the truck, into my garage. The CRF is not tall or tippy.

Having said all this, today I went to the Cleveland motorcycle show today. Sat on lots of bikes. The CRF and the KLR650 were the only two bikes there that allow YOU to decide where your ass will be on the seat...everything else locked you into essentially one position. I HAVE made a proper decision buying this thing. Also...sat on a STOCK WR250R...tall, tippy, nasty, and if you think the CRF seat is ass-unfriendly, don't even get close to the WRR. With the WRR you are perched on top of what I consider an unpleasantly stiff top heavy bike, with a seat like an oak plank. My buddy has spent $$$$ to make his WRR much less tall, hard and nasty than stock.

Thank you, Ed.

I always enjoy reading your helpful, insightful posts.

Spud

positron007 · 01-28-2013, 08:45 PM

First post. I think I have made up my mind to get this bike. Started reading through this thread but many more pages to go. For me the first thing I will be doing is -1 on the front cog, manrack and jerry can. Is their a larger PLASTIC tank for this bike

Spud Rider · 01-28-2013, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by positron007

First post. I think I have made up my mind to get this bike. Started reading through this thread but many more pages to go. For me the first thing I will be doing is -1 on the front cog, manrack and jerry can. Is their a larger PLASTIC tank for this bike

IMS is reported to be working on a larger, plastic fuel tank for this bike. The IMS fuel tank is rumored to be available in late February, or March of this year.

Spud

positron007 · 01-29-2013, 12:42 AM

Thank you.
I'll keep an eye out for that

SAPB · 01-30-2013, 09:27 AM

It took me almost 7 weeks to get 620 miles on mine, due to weather. Today, as I went by the bank, it was 52, almost paradise. It hadn't even been started in two weeks, but fired right up. Anyway, the engine is loosening up, and feels like it's revving quicker. The brakes are waaaaaay better. If it wasn't for what I read up on, I probably would have hit the guy ahead at the first red light. Not sure how many miles it took for the brakes to get better, but I was braking when not needed, to seat them in better (keeping an eye in the mirrors, people behind you aren't expecting you to do that, so I went where there was no traffic). I'll bring it to the dealer for the 600, tossing them a bone, as it were. After that, I'll probably do all the upkeep on it myself. Did a lot of research on which DS I would get, this one's a keeper.

gnath9 · 01-31-2013, 01:58 PM

I can't wait to ride mine either ... -23 wind chills here today. I picked it up in November and got just over 300 miles on it so far.

01-17-2013, 09:31 AM	#1606
Birdmove Beastly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2004 Location: Keaau, Hawaii Oddometer: 1,210	I would guess Honda won't bring it to the US. I don't think they sold many of the 230cc version here. That would be too bad, as I like the SM models myself. __________________ Jon in Keaau, Hi. USA 2008 SYM HD200 (wife's ride) 2009 Kymco People 150 and coming soon, another dual sport mc

01-25-2013, 08:47 PM	#1607
Spud Rider Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2008 Location: Idaho Oddometer: 2,942	I'll ask this question here, since it might be considered "blasphemy" in the "owner's thread." Today I got my first chance to sit on a CRF250L. The saddle height is perfect for me, and I was impressed with many features of the bike. However, even with a perfect saddle height, the bike seemed to me to be a little top heavy. Has anyone compared the "top heaviness" of the CRF250L to either the KLX250S or the WR250R? I'm interested in knowing if one bike will tip over more easily in slow tight quarters, as well as knowing how well each bike handles at faster speeds. Spud __________________ 2005 XR650L: Shorai Battery Relocation, Spud Oil Cooler, XR650R C/S Sprocket, Reinforced Subframe, Chain Slipper Roller, Performance Design Lowering Link, Baja Designs Headlight, FMF Hi-Flo Header, ManRacks SD Rack, CST Surge I Front Tire, D952 Rear Tire, Tusk D-Flex Handguards, Uni Air Filter, No-Toil Evolution air filter oil

01-30-2013, 09:27 AM	#1619
SAPB Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Sep 2012 Location: Rhode Island Oddometer: 354	Just over 600 It took me almost 7 weeks to get 620 miles on mine, due to weather. Today, as I went by the bank, it was 52, almost paradise. It hadn't even been started in two weeks, but fired right up. Anyway, the engine is loosening up, and feels like it's revving quicker. The brakes are waaaaaay better. If it wasn't for what I read up on, I probably would have hit the guy ahead at the first red light. Not sure how many miles it took for the brakes to get better, but I was braking when not needed, to seat them in better (keeping an eye in the mirrors, people behind you aren't expecting you to do that, so I went where there was no traffic). I'll bring it to the dealer for the 600, tossing them a bone, as it were. After that, I'll probably do all the upkeep on it myself. Did a lot of research on which DS I would get, this one's a keeper. __________________ CRF250L, always cleaned while it's raining C14

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01-26-2013, 05:54 AM	#1608
trainman Gnarly Adventurer Joined: May 2007 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Oddometer: 290	Spud Rider, if you have read any of the reviews on these bikes you will know your answer. Most reviews said that the Honda felt lighter then the actual weight that it was, 320lbs. John

01-26-2013, 06:34 AM	#1609
Ed@Ford Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jan 2004 Location: Dearborn MI Oddometer: 1,050	SPUDRIDER: I agree with John, all of the road tests had NO mention of topheavy on on these bikes. It WAS noted that the CRF front tire would wash out on pavement and especially offroad. Just like the crap tires on my KLR650. If your preference is offroad, a dunlop 606 on the front is probably a good choice. If you're into mostly onroad pavement and graded gravel roads, I went to Shinko 451(I think) on my KLR, and they are nice, and will go thru some pretty crappy stuff...which I generally try to avoid on my KLR. Although considered a 70/30 pavement/offroad tire, I find it in a lot of cases grippier on gravel than a 606. My ride bud has a WR250R with shinkos all around, and it will go thru almost any kind of loose stuff...as long as it's dry. Also...Shinkos are 40 some $$

01-26-2013, 09:06 AM	#1610
strongbad Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2006 Location: Arroyo Grande, CA Oddometer: 428	"Top heavy" isn't a bad thing. If you were balancing a broom in your hand, which end would you put up? The heavy end. All my bikes have handled better and felt more stable with a full tank of gas than empty.

01-28-2013, 08:45 PM	#1616
positron007 Adventurer Joined: Jan 2013 Oddometer: 44	First post. I think I have made up my mind to get this bike. Started reading through this thread but many more pages to go. For me the first thing I will be doing is -1 on the front cog, manrack and jerry can. Is their a larger PLASTIC tank for this bike

01-29-2013, 12:42 AM	#1618
positron007 Adventurer Joined: Jan 2013 Oddometer: 44	Thank you. I'll keep an eye out for that

01-31-2013, 01:58 PM	#1620
gnath9 Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2012 Location: Omaha, Ne Oddometer: 146	I can't wait to ride mine either ... -23 wind chills here today. I picked it up in November and got just over 300 miles on it so far.