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Old 01-27-2013, 10:20 AM   #811
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Interesting design, and it addresses one of the irritations that I have with many mobile home and little house designs - most build OVER the trailer wheels. This guy built a lower chassis and around the wheels, so that the house is lower to the ground:





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That's not all that practical if the directions to where you're going include "turn off the paved road"......
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:30 AM   #812
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Just bought this piece of land and plan to build a tiny-ish house, 600 to 800 sqft...The design I'm leaning towards would be a rustic settlers cabin on the outside and state of the art contempory inside. Whatever I build will have shop space for sure...

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Beautiful piece of land! Hopefully you share whatever you build on there!

Though I've got to admit -- the rustic cabin outside, and contemporary inside reminded me of the scene from Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay, where they meet the redneck in Alabama. They get invited back to his place -- a little shack in the woods. Go inside, and he's got a model wife, and a modern house.



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...up to 8'6" wide and 13'6" tall a trailer complies with Federal law...

...12' wide and over will require an escort vehicle...

...my ideal house at 12' wide and 40' long would be a piece of cake for a professional mover...

Your point about large glass areas being heavy and poorly insulated is well taken...I have seen some designs that have hinged metal or wood shades that fold up for protection from the sun...
Sounds like you've got a good idea of what you're getting into. Personally, if I were building on a trailer base, I'd prefer it small enough to tow myself -- but to each their own. If you do wind up building something, I think we'd all love to see the finished product!

A quick search for "modern park trailer" got me a few results.

This company has numerous modern designs. I found a few pictures, but no floor plans. They look great, though!

This design is probably my favorite. It's 8.5'x36', so any Joe can tow it (not sure on height, though. I would assume it'd be under 13.5', since it fits the other dimensions). It's apparently designed by the above company, though I can't find any more information on their website. Just imagine if the little front porch could fold up easily -- fold the stairs onto the deck (or remove, and store), fold the front half of the deck up, and the front half of the awning down, and you'd be good to go!

This model, built by some company called Breckenridge, appears to also be a wide load. It's much simpler in design, though, and incorporates a large wall of windows. The concept renderings even mention some louvered shades, though I'm not sure how they would function / store in real life.
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:38 AM   #813
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Interesting concept, however I wonder how portable is it..


That's a lot of glass, and even the best designs flex...
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:27 PM   #814
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I have an old, untitled boat trailer that I'm in the process of converting to a flatbed cargo unit. Single axle, so not too much weight.

What I'd love, though, is to have a little cabin-like think I can load up, and take camping with me, with wood stove, bed, and table/chairs. Sorta like an old-timey hunting cabin, nothing fancy, and keep it light as I can... stick-built with reflectix or something for insulation, and thin paneling inside.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:39 PM   #815
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That's not all that practical if the directions to where you're going include "turn off the paved road"......

Yeah ... that has occurred to me. That and you have to be careful if you have plumbing run underneath the house.

With that said we used to drag some really, really low boat transport trailers into some weird places. Sometimes you just have to factor in the cost of a town truck because it's cheaper than bringing in a crane.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:40 PM   #816
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Interesting concept, however I wonder how portable is it..


That's a lot of glass, and even the best designs flex...


Wow! That's pretty close to what I have in mind. Thanks!

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Oh wow! Seems to be a C.Deam design. http://www.cdeam.com/ . He has designed for Airstream Trailers. Some good stuff there!

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Old 01-27-2013, 02:07 PM   #817
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I think that I have found some inspiration.

"For decades, trailer parks have been increasingly marginalized to a strict set of stereotypes. They might gleam as well-manicured retirement communities to some, but in their most iconic state they are perceived as the province of the unfortunate. The question of whether design can save or even improve trailer parks is preempted almost immediately by “Why bother?”

The latter question is easier to answer. Allan Wallis, author of Wheel Estate: The Rise and Decline of Mobile Homes and an authority on regional housing, calls trailer parks an undervalued, endangered resource. "

http://www.dwell.com/house-tours/art...y-mobile-homes

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Old 01-27-2013, 03:07 PM   #818
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Glad you found some inspiration.

I didn't realize that designer also worked with airstreams, that's pretty cool! I'd definitely say that "park trailers" (or "single-wides", or whatever you want to call them) can be made attractive, for a price. Now get out there and build!
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Old 01-27-2013, 05:02 PM   #819
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That C.Deam design (the one with the sliding doors) seems to have been produced by Breckenridge but it's no longer in their online catalog and their email link is broken. I have sent inquiries to the architect directly so it should be interesting to see what develops.

I could see that for my needs. Notice how the sliding doors are recessed? Put an awning there, probably hinged at the top. Lower the awning to protect the doors (for either transportation or while you are away and traveling, an important element for me) and raise the awning for shade and as a carport (important in all of the tropical climates that I would set it up in).

Remove a sliding door or two from one side and put some on the other side. Since there is no real front or back that would ease orientation in setting it up on another site.

There is a class of homes that you see in RVing areas every so often that are meant to work in conjunction with an RV. Typically they have large carports with Rv hookups and no guest quarters with the idea that you would put any guest into the RV. I could see that here.

Also, if circumstances changed I could see adding a workshop/garage made up of a single 40 ft. ISO container or two 20 ft. containers. With matching colors and similar rectangular lines if you did things right you could have a home module, a workshop module, a covered carport space between them for the toy hauler trailer, and it wouldn't scream out "tacky."

Yeah. I could see it. Build it in pieces as finance and circumstances allow, have the various modules stand alone or work together.

The housing unit pictured is probably relatively simple to build. I would think that a frame of rectangular steel tubing would be a good start. If it's plumb, or someone can find a welder to make it plumb, then you'd be good to go. Weld the basic framework and then do the interior with lumber and you'd have a strong structure.

Possibly build on an old park model trailer chassis, perhaps one that has been highly modified. That way you would have the paperwork in hand to satisfy most RV parks that accept park trailers if anyone asks.

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On that last part. Just checking my poor old Southwind RV. It has a Fleetwood insignia and the seal of whatever organization certifies RV compliance attached to the door. I keep thinking that Fleetwood went bankrupt, the travel trailer division closed completely, and the rest sold to other owners. Just wonder if there isn't a super unknown prototype of a futuristic park model out there somewhere that has since been upgraded and highly modified. Could happen I guess.

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I spent a bit today drooling over renovated airstreams. Looks like one of the big names in renovations is Matthew Hoffman, of Hoffman Architecture. Check this out!



Apparently on that one he did all the work himself. Bought a used, 70's airstream for a couple thousand, gutted it, and redid everything. Total cost, doing his own labor, was around $20k. Not bad!

But then comes the question: where to put the tools? I suppose I could always buy an acre or two of desert, just outside of Phoenix, and put one of these and a small metal barn on site.
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:33 PM   #821
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Are you guys familiar with "park model" rv's? Basically it's a big towable, but without the holding tanks for the plumbing.

You can find them that look like this.

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Old 01-27-2013, 07:26 PM   #822
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Are you guys familiar with "park model" rv's?]

Oh yes. I am a full-time RVer. The C.Deam trailer that I am drolling over is a park model trailer rather than a mobile home.

However, I do have to say that the one that you found is one of the better looking park models although it's a bit conventional for my tastes. But that's the idea - most of the park model trailers go to older folks that have more conservative tastes.
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Old 01-27-2013, 07:27 PM   #823
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That looks like it could be...



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Old 02-17-2013, 06:34 PM   #824
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Are you guys familiar with "park model" rv's? Basically it's a big towable, but without the holding tanks for the plumbing.
I have seen a number of them when we've gone RVing. I keep tossing around the idea of adding one or two to our vacation rental property. Right now we have a completely renovated old stone lodge on 34 acres. That leaves plenty of room far away from the lodge. Considering the land and lodge are already mine, this wouldn't be a big additional investment and could rent for 2/3 the cost of what I get for the lodge. The $$ out Vs. income would be better than the first place.
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Interesting concept, however I wonder how portable is it..


That's a lot of glass, and even the best designs flex...
This might be a great goal to have, when starting with a shipping container. I really like this design a lot. I would do the center section in glass block; privacy plus light. I would think the glass gets installed after being transported.

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