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Old 01-28-2013, 12:57 PM   #28411
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[QUOTE=urbancowboy;20593952]limp wristing could be a problem, but i would think that is something you would have experienced when you bought the gun years ago. however, it sounds like you don't like shooting that caliber, so you might consider switching to a 9mm glock that you'll enjoy more.

can you have someone else shoot the gun? that way you could rule out the limp wristing thing.

Just took it apart again and looked at the extractor under a magnifying glass. It does not appear "perfect". By that I mean its does not appear completely uniform in shape. Think I'll see about getting a replacement for it and see if that solves the problem.
In the mean time I may have someone else run a few mags through it to see if it is "me". Don't really think it is as although I'm not an expert I do shoot a fair amount (M&P 9mm, Buckmark .22, P238) and don't have any issues with any of the other guns. I'm not "hesitant" in shooting the 23 but after 50 rounds or so, the others are just more enjoyable to shoot. I practice with each that I intend as SD guns to remain proficient, including the 23.
Thanks to all that have replied. It has been helpful. I'll let you guys know when I get it sorted out.
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Old 01-28-2013, 01:06 PM   #28412
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Short stroking glock/failure to eject

Buddy of mines 23 was doing that. We cleaned it and lubed the shiny spots and that seemed to clear it up when he holds the gun tightly., He tends to load rounds to the higher side of performance (too damned hot in my opinion) as to ShadyRascal's lightening up. I think that affects his shooting as the battering gets the gun loose in his hand. I have never had a hang-up while shooting his gun with his loads- I refuse to shoot them in my 22,35,or 26.

I call bullshit on the mag springs being bad or set or whatever the catchphrase being used now-They are like unicorns, people talk about them but unless its an older gun with the flat spring in the mag, they just don't hardly happen
Maybe a dirty mag.
If I have a mag fail to feed it gets one chance, I take them apart, clean them and reassemble them. If the mag lips or follower are jacked they go away.
My armorer once brought me a box full of Beretta mags and told me he had to destroy them because they'd been left loaded too long and had taken a set. He began to demonstrate by thumbing rounds out of the magazine and after 3 or 4 rounds the follower would hang inside the mag. Some other armorer was checking some mags and this occurred. He documented this horror and sent it to higher higher resulting in a message to check for this horrific problem and follow up with a message acknowledging it had been done and corrective action taken, including number of replacement mags needed. This was his proof that the mags springs were all bad.
I took the mag and bumped it way less than it would have bumped in a firing gun and the follower threw the bullet right up to the top of the mag. I told him to unload all of them, disassemble and clean them, reload and hand check and then run a mag through each during pistol quals. NONE FAILED.

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Old 01-28-2013, 03:57 PM   #28413
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for those on a budget that have to shoot at only paper targets here is a cheap way to make " shoot n see targets " rather than paying a buck a piece for them , and they are reusable .

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cardboard ( empty beer or soda box or anyother free cardboard you have laying around to recycle ) cut it into the shape you want , I make them into silloetts
So I had a chance to try your idea today. Not bad but I think the cost in materials is more than it would cost to just buy the targets at Walmart. I think it's a great idea for specialty targets with a unique shape. I'll post up some video in a bit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsbFRCKBZIU
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:50 PM   #28414
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So I had a chance to try your idea today. Not bad but I think the cost in materials is more than it would cost to just buy the targets at Walmart. I think it's a great idea for specialty targets with a unique shape. I'll post up some video in a bit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsbFRCKBZIU

glad you liked them , as for cost , I usually buy the cheap paint , under $2 a can and a roll of tape usually goes a long way, and on the plus side I can make the targets typically larger than I can buy them .

this was my latest home made target , made from scrap I had around the garage .


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F540Y...yer_detailpage
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Old 01-28-2013, 06:24 PM   #28415
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glad you liked them , as for cost , I usually buy the cheap paint , under $2 a can and a roll of tape usually goes a long way, and on the plus side I can make the targets typically larger than I can buy them .

this was my latest home made target , made from scrap I had around the garage .


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F540Y...yer_detailpage

That is way cool. You need to patent copyright whatever and make that baby your own. That is slick.
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Old 01-28-2013, 06:53 PM   #28416
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That is way cool. You need to patent copyright whatever and make that baby your own. That is slick.

I can't take credit for the idea, I saw a few different designs for it on line that do the similar thing , the shape, size etc of mine is unique , but the idea came from cowboy action shooting , usually they pair a pepper popper with a flipper arm of some sort . I had fun shooting it yesterday , and my cheak is tender to prove it .
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:20 PM   #28417
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Here's the ad:

http://www.armslist.com/posts/949042...-cz-52-pistols

If legit, are they worth it for an "unusual" caliber SA handgun?
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:32 PM   #28418
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glad you liked them , as for cost , I usually buy the cheap paint , under $2 a can and a roll of tape usually goes a long way, and on the plus side I can make the targets typically larger than I can buy them .

this was my latest home made target , made from scrap I had around the garage .


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F540Y...yer_detailpage
Nice. I'm not a shot gun user but I could see some fun applications for that.
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Old 01-28-2013, 08:22 PM   #28419
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Went to Cabela's today to check out a lever action Henry .22 that I've been wanting, and planned on possibly buying a scope for my Marlin 22.

This thing followed me home.








Got it cleaned up a bit tonight, going to test fire it tomorrow. Ammo was high, bought a box for $20. Ordered some surplus a little bit ago, just had to buy enough to shoot it now. Impatient I guess.
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Old 01-28-2013, 08:58 PM   #28420
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I call bullshit on the mag springs being bad or set or whatever the catchphrase being used now-They are like unicorns, people talk about them but unless its an older gun with the flat spring in the mag, they just don't hardly happen
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Call BS all you want. I personally have had 2Glock mag springs fail, breaking in two pieces about a third of the way down. I have also had my duty magazines replaced twice because the gun failed to pick up rounds (according to Glock because of bad springs unable to keep up with the slide). The second replacements (done for the whole dept.) was a redesigned magazine with VERY heavy springs.
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Old 01-28-2013, 09:01 PM   #28421
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Went to Cabela's today to check out a lever action Henry .22 that I've been wanting, .
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Old 01-28-2013, 09:12 PM   #28422
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Yep, that's the one.

I have a hard time buying a 22 since I already have 2 perfectly functional ones. The 7.62x54, well, I didn't have that. Plus the gun was $150 and ammo is dirt cheap.

I have to learn a bit now on cleaning, I keep hearing that the surplus ammo is hard on them if you don't clean it right.
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Old 01-28-2013, 09:58 PM   #28423
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Call BS all you want. I personally have had 2Glock mag springs fail, breaking in two pieces about a third of the way down. I have also had my duty magazines replaced twice because the gun failed to pick up rounds (according to Glock because of bad springs unable to keep up with the slide). The second replacements (done for the whole dept.) was a redesigned magazine with VERY heavy springs.
Hey man if you saw it that's one thing I respect your firsthand knowledge and obviously it can happen. My experience has not been the same. They recall cars all the time because of defective parts and just as surely it can happen with anything else mechanical including guns, which is why you and I and others have been taught never to trust a safety because as a mechanical device it can fail. Thanks for stating specifics in your situation as I did in mine. I'm glad we were both able to present actual facts instead of blindly posting something we heard or that we may have overheard or read on the internet. By the way, the agency I worked for just replaced all the extrators on their gen4 model 22.

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Old 01-28-2013, 09:59 PM   #28424
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Yep, that's the one.



I have to learn a bit now on cleaning, I keep hearing that the surplus ammo is hard on them if you don't clean it right.
Dead easy- buy yourself 2 .30 caliber "mop" cleaning brushes. Pull the bolt out, soak one mop in soapy, hot water and run it through the bore 5 times. Rinse and repeat for 2-3 cycles. Use the other mop to dry the bore. Then switch to regular cleaning equipment- bronze brush, bore cleaner, patches, etc. Last off, make sure to oil it before you put it away.

BTW- you can use a heat gun to melt the inevitable cosmoline and then use brake cleaner to take off the remains. Just avoid getting the stock too wet with brake cleaner- it will melt the varnish.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:40 PM   #28425
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I call bullshit on the mag springs being bad or set or whatever the catchphrase being used now-They are like unicorns, people talk about them but unless its an older gun with the flat spring in the mag, they just don't hardly happen
Maybe a dirty mag.
If I have a mag fail to feed it gets one chance, I take them apart, clean them and reassemble them. If the mag lips or follower are jacked they go away..
said his glock is from 1992. i think he could benefit from all new springs, especially mag springs.

quality mags are also definitely important with 1911s. call bs all you want.

personal example with glock mags: when i started reloading 9mm several years ago, i had a load that seemed ok but my glock 26 wasn't feeding 100%. probably closer to 50%. asked around, experts told me to try new mags first (those mags were 5 years old and always loaded). worked like a charm. never had a failure since then. last year i replaced the second batch of mags with new ones. cheap insurance.
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