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Old 01-31-2013, 06:14 AM   #28441
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It's one thing to add shifts and increase utilization, another thing entirely to invest capital for expansion. I imagine the Gun Mfgs are doing the former, not the latter right now.

That said, organic expansion has its pains as well. New machinsts and operators may not produce things exactly the same way as the current crew, which can be a QC issue until the bugs are ironed out.
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:04 AM   #28442
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CSM is two flights down...

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Old 01-31-2013, 07:17 AM   #28443
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I'm a manufacturer (not firearms) and it's time consuming and labor intensive (read expensive) to ramp a factory up to push more product out the door. With the country's insecure economy, I'd be very hesitant to expand when laws could change and negate extended growth. I cannot imagine Bushmaster expanding to meet current demand only to have their main product banned.

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Manufacturer here also, used to be firearms, but no more. I have had 2 former competitors contact me to get some machine time as they are flat out. Neither is going to expand..just make hay while they can.
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:47 AM   #28444
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CSM is two flights down...

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+1 couldn't have said it better myself

With that, meet my newest member to the family:
Rock Island 1911 45 ACP HiCap - 5"


I've already put Hogue wrap around grip and am ordering some Novak sights today. But i prob won't have the patience to wait and will take it this weekend to go break it in. It feels much better in my hand than my springfield ultra (double stack mag). This will not be a CC gun, so the 15 round mag doesn't bother me any
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Old 01-31-2013, 08:42 AM   #28445
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+1 couldn't have said it better myself

With that, meet my newest member to the family:
Rock Island 1911 45 ACP HiCap - 5"


I've already put Hogue wrap around grip and am ordering some Novak sights today. But i prob won't have the patience to wait and will take it this weekend to go break it in. It feels much better in my hand than my springfield ultra (double stack mag). This will not be a CC gun, so the 15 round mag doesn't bother me any
RIA!!!!

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Old 01-31-2013, 09:59 PM   #28446
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i know this is a pretty informal gun thread, and it's cool that you seem fairly calm about the problem with your glock. however, glock malfunctions aren't/shouldn't be too common.
I have a Gen 3 G23. The extraction problem often happens with Glocks over limp wristing. It's a very common problem, especially with Glocks. Their only real Kryptonite.
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:44 AM   #28447
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I'm a manufacturer (not firearms) and it's time consuming and labor intensive (read expensive) to ramp a factory up to push more product out the door. With the country's insecure economy, I'd be very hesitant to expand when laws could change and negate extended growth. I cannot imagine Bushmaster expanding to meet current demand only to have their main product banned.

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My guess is they are switching machines from other parts to increase lower production. Get them made before they are outlawed. Everything else can be made postban if that happens.
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Old 02-01-2013, 06:17 AM   #28448
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Did some shooting the other day on one of those nice rare 65deg days in January.

I just mounted the scope on the AR. I need a new mount for it. 20+ years shooting M16/AR15 with my nose to the charging handle. The Leupold cantilever mount does not put it far enough forward for my shooting position. Gonna order an ADM recon X mount for it.

First time shooting the Savage Mk II. I have a Boyd's stock on order for it. I did not get to play much since some friends came over and they wanted to shoot a little more dynamically, but so far I like it.


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Old 02-01-2013, 08:00 PM   #28449
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Did some shooting the other day on one of those nice rare 65deg days in January.

I just mounted the scope on the AR. I need a new mount for it. 20+ years shooting M16/AR15 with my nose to the charging handle. The Leupold cantilever mount does not put it far enough forward for my shooting position. Gonna order an ADM recon X mount for it.

First time shooting the Savage Mk II. I have a Boyd's stock on order for it. I did not get to play much since some friends came over and they wanted to shoot a little more dynamically, but so far I like it.




I just put a Burris P.E.P.R. mount on my 300 BLK build AR...Leupold VX-R scope. Works like a champ to move the scope forward. Though from your description it sounds like you want to move the scope backwards?




More here and here...

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Old 02-02-2013, 01:24 PM   #28450
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It's one thing to add shifts and increase utilization, another thing entirely to invest capital for expansion. I imagine the Gun Mfgs are doing the former, not the latter right now.

That said, organic expansion has its pains as well. New machinsts and operators may not produce things exactly the same way as the current crew, which can be a QC issue until the bugs are ironed out.
Certainly.

The company I work for ramped up their production lines a while back, even putting on second shifts in some of their plants to meet demand. Now demand is down again and some orders have been cancelled, so a large backlog has almost evaporated.

The result? Layoffs in production plants. Possibly that may expand to the office and other non-production staff as well, including me. Boom and bust. It is a big risk to ramp up production. Much better to be struggling to meet demand than to to have to scale back because demand suddenly evaporates.

That said, I am not going to be doing any panic buying. I will be selling a few rifles while the prices are high, but I will still be staying below what many are asking. Later, when the panic subsides I will get some different rifles, but right now I have other uses for that money - like making mortgage payments if I get laid off.
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Old 02-02-2013, 01:45 PM   #28451
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how to on the home made shoot and see targets


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Old 02-02-2013, 01:57 PM   #28452
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It's one thing to add shifts and increase utilization, another thing entirely to invest capital for expansion. I imagine the Gun Mfgs are doing the former, not the latter right now.

That said, organic expansion has its pains as well. New machinsts and operators may not produce things exactly the same way as the current crew, which can be a QC issue until the bugs are ironed out.
I'm just talking expanded shifts and that sort of thing. Yeah...not feasible to have machinery made and expand facilities. Those companies are making money hand over fist right now since shop/msrp prices have jumped about 50% in the last couple of months. I doubt an AWB ban will pass but its crazy to think of how many jobs in the industry would be gone and how many companies would be out of business




I'm waiting for a huge influx of ammo to hit the market at some point from foreign manufacturers since they have to deal with shipping and that sort of thing. My local trip to pick up some ammo blew my mind.....I have never seen a market so out of whack.

.308 and .223/5.56 and 30-06/.270/.243/30-30 all at about a buck a round for mid-level stuff....there's no cheap stuff anywhere and a lot of whats available is reloads at those crazy prices

steel case 7.62x39 is over 50 cents per round now

Brick of .22 is $47 now and thats for ok stuff

50 rounds of crap range 9mm is $27

50 rounds of ok range .40 is $17

50 rounds of ok range .45 acp is $20



Intersitngly enough the 440 round surplus cans of 7.62x54 are only $110
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Old 02-02-2013, 02:08 PM   #28453
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how to on the home made shoot and see targets


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVwPO...ZS6H_gFMrqR3hg

very cool. thanks. i'm going to use this.

last year i invested in a salute brand e-type target (1/2 steel). was expensive, but there's nothing like shooting steel. i spray paint it between uses.


nice shooting btw.
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Old 02-02-2013, 02:26 PM   #28454
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nice shooting btw.

thanks , the pistols were at about 20ft the 1st was a walther p22, then a sig p225 9mm and the last was at 50yrds with a ruger 10/22

now I need to find some more scrap steel peices , I want to make a steel flip down that when knocked down will flip up the cardboard shoot n see for the follow up shots . stay tuned .
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Old 02-02-2013, 03:17 PM   #28455
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I just put a Burris P.E.P.R. mount on my 300 BLK build AR...Leupold VX-R scope. Works like a champ to move the scope forward. Though from your description it sounds like you want to move the scope backwards?




More here and here...

No. The scope is too far backwards for me where it is. I want it another 3" forward or so. That way when I shoot in the position I would with iron sights, I have the proper eye relief with the optic.
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