The All New 2013 LIQUID COOLED R1200GS threadfest - Page 305

I GS 1 · 01-31-2013, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DDT Rider

Its listing is in Japanese, so I thought maybe folks here have not seen it. About 27 minutes of the LC driving around S. Africa. Intermittently, and at the end, it shows good views of the bike and the controls in use.

Now, I'll try to imbed the video ;>

That looks like the pre launch testing and filming of promo material they did in Kenya. There are some nice shots in it. Thanks

ShaftEd · 01-31-2013, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JimVonBaden

A single rider out of dozens of unknown offroad skill, or even BMW MC experience, reports a minor perceived issue, and another who crashes under completely unknown circumstances, and some of you are acting like the bike has a fatal flaw and are yelling recall already?

Jim

Two journalists reported it. One U.S. and a Canadian. Read the reports. It scared the hell out of one. It didn't sound "minor" at all.

I didn't say anything about a recall. Just something to be aware of.

JimVonBaden · 01-31-2013, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ShaftEd

Two journalists reported it. One U.S. and a Canadian. Read the reports. It scared the hell out of one. It didn't sound "minor" at all.

I didn't say anything about a recall. Just something to be aware of.

I wasn't pointing out you Ed.

As for the reports, the normal journalist who has little BMW experience always freaks about the telelever. I'm not putting much stock into it untill some of us ride it.

Jim

ShaftEd · 01-31-2013, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by cug

Actually it is.
If you're concerned about complexity, buy a KLR and leave the GS to people that aren't concerned about complexity and don't care all too much what they're getting into or trust BMW/Sachs to build a system that works.

I can't buy a KLR, there's no milk crate in the Touratech catalog.

Montauk · 01-31-2013, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RichBMW

I've already ordered the bars from BMW, along with a load of other "must haves"

Then went on to the Touratech site and blew another $800

Curios Rich, you spent money in $$, but you live in UK, or was it in £?

Montauk · 01-31-2013, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mav

Are you serious??

A man died and you're worried your new bike... If you're worried about your money, cancel your order and wait for the thorough investigation. I can assure you there will be plenty of new GSs.

With due respect, and not necessarily backing RichBMW, we are all very sorry for a loss of a life, however, like anything, life continues to move along. We have to be strong to over come this tragedy.

Montauk · 01-31-2013, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Bazgab

Speaking of the catalog, I saw that there are Zega Pro2 cases coming. Didn't realize they had a new version coming out.

I would expect a different description to denote swapped sides, as the new Wasserstein Boxer has exhaust on the opposite side compared to current model. My take is that they are probably same hardware, features, etc.

RichBMW · 01-31-2013, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JimVonBaden

A single rider out of dozens of unknown offroad skill, or even BMW MC experience, reports a minor perceived issue, and another who crashes under completely unknown circumstances, and some of you are acting like the bike has a fatal flaw and are yelling recall already?

Jim

At last, someone speaks sense

RichBMW · 01-31-2013, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Montauk

Curios Rich, you spent money in $$, but you live in UK, or was it in £?

Nope, I ordered in £, just translated into $ for you lot

markjenn · 01-31-2013, 11:32 AM

Just to put some specificity to this discussion of possible handling issues with the new GS, here is the quote from the Bike magazine article:

"The only unpleasant shock during the while 280-mile ride is a tankslapper so violent it snaps the lockstops off the frame. BMW chassis engineers seemed shocked to hear of it, claiming they never experienced anything of the sort in five long years and one million kilometers of testing. It does seem that I just happen to have stumbled on exactly the wrong combination of speed and road surface at the wrong time. Assuming it really is just a one-off - which, in all fairness, would appear to be the most likely explanation - then the new R1200GS is a remarkable machine."

You guys can argue about whether worrying about something like this with the amount of data we have is prudent or chicken-little.

- Mark

Mav · 01-31-2013, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by markjenn

Just to put some specificity to this discussion of possible handling issues with the new GS, here is the quote from the Bike magazine article:

"The only unpleasant shock during the while 280-mile ride is a tankslapper so violent it snaps the lockstops off the frame. BMW chassis engineers seemed shocked to hear of it, claiming they never experienced anything of the sort in five long years and one million kilometers of testing. It does seem that I just happen to have stumbled on exactly the wrong combination of speed and road surface at the wrong time. Assuming it really is just a one-off - which, in all fairness, would appear to be the most likely explanation - then the new R1200GS is a remarkable machine."

You guys can argue about whether worrying about something like this with the amount of data we have is prudent or chicken-little.

- Mark

I notice he/she makes no reference to the impact to the "wrong combination" by the riders ability (or lack of), or the speed he was going at...

To snap the lock stops off and not wipeout would be quite something... but if there was a wipeout, is it not possible (more likely) they got broken off as the bike went down?

markjenn · 01-31-2013, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mav

To snap the lock stops off and not wipeout would be quite something...

It's actually more common than you'd think. Tankslappers have a natural oscillation frequency at specific speeds and the bike will decel just enough during the slapper to fall out of the zone and re-stabilize.

Regardless, it IS ridiculously scary if you have it happen to you.

- Mark

BordenBmw · 01-31-2013, 12:55 PM

New report!

IB1 · 01-31-2013, 12:58 PM

Reading this doesn't scare me. I am quite sure mine will behave very well.

Ze_zaskar · 01-31-2013, 01:00 PM

This new model seems to correct some details that I think are overly dumb about the current GS:

-Longer swingarm;
-Wet clutch that's not in the middle of the bike;
-Much higher air intake;
-Something closer to a "real" frame.

BMW got my attention with this, let's see how the reliability plays out.
I'm also waiting to see the Adventure model. I'm might be interested in that. Just imagine if it comes out with a 21'' wheel...

EDIT: Forgot about the bolted on passenger pegs on the improvements list

01-31-2013, 11:32 AM	#4570
markjenn Beastly Adventurer Joined: Nov 2003 Location: Swellvue, WA Oddometer: 9,739	Just to put some specificity to this discussion of possible handling issues with the new GS, here is the quote from the Bike magazine article: "The only unpleasant shock during the while 280-mile ride is a tankslapper so violent it snaps the lockstops off the frame. BMW chassis engineers seemed shocked to hear of it, claiming they never experienced anything of the sort in five long years and one million kilometers of testing. It does seem that I just happen to have stumbled on exactly the wrong combination of speed and road surface at the wrong time. Assuming it really is just a one-off - which, in all fairness, would appear to be the most likely explanation - then the new R1200GS is a remarkable machine." You guys can argue about whether worrying about something like this with the amount of data we have is prudent or chicken-little. - Mark

01-31-2013, 12:55 PM	#4573
BordenBmw TheFrenchRider Joined: May 2009 Location: Grid Roads, Saskatchewan Canada Oddometer: 661	New report! __________________ So many roads so little time...

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01-31-2013, 12:58 PM	#4574
IB1 Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jan 2013 Location: Brussels Oddometer: 346	Reading this doesn't scare me. I am quite sure mine will behave very well.

01-31-2013, 01:00 PM	#4575
Ze_zaskar Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Dec 2009 Location: 41°17'51.59"N / 8°43'56.76"W Oddometer: 304	This new model seems to correct some details that I think are overly dumb about the current GS: -Longer swingarm; -Wet clutch that's not in the middle of the bike; -Much higher air intake; -Something closer to a "real" frame. BMW got my attention with this, let's see how the reliability plays out. I'm also waiting to see the Adventure model. I'm might be interested in that. Just imagine if it comes out with a 21'' wheel... EDIT: Forgot about the bolted on passenger pegs on the improvements list