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Old 01-31-2013, 10:33 AM   #4561
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Actually it is.
If you're concerned about complexity, buy a KLR and leave the GS to people that aren't concerned about complexity and don't care all too much what they're getting into or trust BMW/Sachs to build a system that works.

I can't buy a KLR, there's no milk crate in the Touratech catalog.
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Old 01-31-2013, 10:42 AM   #4562
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I've already ordered the bars from BMW, along with a load of other "must haves" Then went on to the Touratech site and blew another $800
Curios Rich, you spent money in $$, but you live in UK, or was it in ?
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Old 01-31-2013, 10:52 AM   #4563
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Are you serious??

A man died and you're worried your new bike... If you're worried about your money, cancel your order and wait for the thorough investigation. I can assure you there will be plenty of new GSs.
With due respect, and not necessarily backing RichBMW, we are all very sorry for a loss of a life, however, like anything, life continues to move along. We have to be strong to over come this tragedy.
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Old 01-31-2013, 10:57 AM   #4564
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Speaking of the catalog, I saw that there are Zega Pro2 cases coming. Didn't realize they had a new version coming out.
I would expect a different description to denote swapped sides, as the new Wasserstein Boxer has exhaust on the opposite side compared to current model. My take is that they are probably same hardware, features, etc.
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:25 AM   #4565
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A single rider out of dozens of unknown offroad skill, or even BMW MC experience, reports a minor perceived issue, and another who crashes under completely unknown circumstances, and some of you are acting like the bike has a fatal flaw and are yelling recall already?

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Old 01-31-2013, 11:25 AM   #4566
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Curios Rich, you spent money in $$, but you live in UK, or was it in ?
Nope, I ordered in , just translated into $ for you lot
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:32 AM   #4567
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Just to put some specificity to this discussion of possible handling issues with the new GS, here is the quote from the Bike magazine article:
"The only unpleasant shock during the while 280-mile ride is a tankslapper so violent it snaps the lockstops off the frame. BMW chassis engineers seemed shocked to hear of it, claiming they never experienced anything of the sort in five long years and one million kilometers of testing. It does seem that I just happen to have stumbled on exactly the wrong combination of speed and road surface at the wrong time. Assuming it really is just a one-off - which, in all fairness, would appear to be the most likely explanation - then the new R1200GS is a remarkable machine."
You guys can argue about whether worrying about something like this with the amount of data we have is prudent or chicken-little.

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Old 01-31-2013, 11:46 AM   #4568
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Just to put some specificity to this discussion of possible handling issues with the new GS, here is the quote from the Bike magazine article:
"The only unpleasant shock during the while 280-mile ride is a tankslapper so violent it snaps the lockstops off the frame. BMW chassis engineers seemed shocked to hear of it, claiming they never experienced anything of the sort in five long years and one million kilometers of testing. It does seem that I just happen to have stumbled on exactly the wrong combination of speed and road surface at the wrong time. Assuming it really is just a one-off - which, in all fairness, would appear to be the most likely explanation - then the new R1200GS is a remarkable machine."
You guys can argue about whether worrying about something like this with the amount of data we have is prudent or chicken-little.

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I notice he/she makes no reference to the impact to the "wrong combination" by the riders ability (or lack of), or the speed he was going at...

To snap the lock stops off and not wipeout would be quite something... but if there was a wipeout, is it not possible (more likely) they got broken off as the bike went down?
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:08 PM   #4569
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To snap the lock stops off and not wipeout would be quite something...
It's actually more common than you'd think. Tankslappers have a natural oscillation frequency at specific speeds and the bike will decel just enough during the slapper to fall out of the zone and re-stabilize.

Regardless, it IS ridiculously scary if you have it happen to you.

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Old 01-31-2013, 12:55 PM   #4570
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:58 PM   #4571
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Reading this doesn't scare me. I am quite sure mine will behave very well.
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Old 01-31-2013, 01:00 PM   #4572
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This new model seems to correct some details that I think are overly dumb about the current GS:

-Longer swingarm;
-Wet clutch that's not in the middle of the bike;
-Much higher air intake;
-Something closer to a "real" frame.

BMW got my attention with this, let's see how the reliability plays out.
I'm also waiting to see the Adventure model. I'm might be interested in that. Just imagine if it comes out with a 21'' wheel...

EDIT: Forgot about the bolted on passenger pegs on the improvements list
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Old 01-31-2013, 02:37 PM   #4573
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Just to put some specificity to this discussion of possible handling issues with the new GS, here is the quote from the Bike magazine article:
"The only unpleasant shock during the while 280-mile ride is a tankslapper so violent it snaps the lockstops off the frame. BMW chassis engineers seemed shocked to hear of it, claiming they never experienced anything of the sort in five long years and one million kilometers of testing. It does seem that I just happen to have stumbled on exactly the wrong combination of speed and road surface at the wrong time. Assuming it really is just a one-off - which, in all fairness, would appear to be the most likely explanation - then the new R1200GS is a remarkable machine."
You guys can argue about whether worrying about something like this with the amount of data we have is prudent or chicken-little.

- Mark
You know that journalist was paid off by KTM to say that, right?
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Old 01-31-2013, 02:59 PM   #4574
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New report!
Slipper clutch he say. Wonder how since the clutch crown is straight up and not helical (like Adler slipper clutches)...

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Old 01-31-2013, 03:01 PM   #4575
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A single rider out of dozens of unknown offroad skill, or even BMW MC experience, reports a minor perceived issue, and another who crashes under completely unknown circumstances, and some of you are acting like the bike has a fatal flaw and are yelling recall already?

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