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Old 01-28-2013, 05:06 AM   #3046
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Quick question about your model 60. I would like it to kick on with the high beam. Should i wire in a 12v relay, or can I tap into the bike's high beam wire directly? I suspect tap right in since the draw is so low, but just curious?

I went back a few pages in this thread and couldn't fin an answer.

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Old 01-28-2013, 08:11 AM   #3047
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Quick question about your model 60. I would like it to kick on with the high beam. Should i wire in a 12v relay, or can I tap into the bike's high beam wire directly? I suspect tap right in since the draw is so low, but just curious?

I went back a few pages in this thread and couldn't fin an answer.

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It depends on the bike! If you have a bus system on it, then you need a relay.

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Old 01-28-2013, 09:32 AM   #3048
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It depends on the bike! If you have a bus system on it, then you need a relay.

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I'd only use those LED's with the dimmer controllers (built in relay/electronics), so much nicer to be able to adjust/set the brightness and then use the built-in hi-beam override, usually you don't need that much light output anyways.
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Old 01-28-2013, 09:45 AM   #3049
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M30 and M61 size pics

The new M61's are riughly the same size as the previous gen lights (M30, M44 and M60). Weight feels close and the new M61's have the mount a little more in the middle. Just got them so no beam pics or anything yet. I'll start mounting them tonight. Lookin good so far! Can't wait to get them hooked up and see how they do!



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Old 01-28-2013, 04:56 PM   #3050
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I'd only use those LED's with the dimmer controllers (built in relay/electronics), so much nicer to be able to adjust/set the brightness and then use the built-in hi-beam override, usually you don't need that much light output anyways.
This is true!

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Old 01-29-2013, 06:47 AM   #3051
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M61 mounted to bike

Messed around a little last night and mounted them to the bike so I could see where would be best. Hooked up just 1 to power so I could see them in action. To my eye and the quick pics I took with my cell phone so I could compare,, the M61 looks to have about the same size and brightness of the model 30 beam with just a touch less spill light. Bigger reflector looks to make up difference in raw lumens ( 1500 for model 30 and 900 for model 61). Of course I'm just going by what I saw on the door of my garage and I have not done an outside test to check out total distance.

They mount up good and solid and I like the way they look. Here they are mounted to handguards, hanging down.





Mounted to guards but on top. I attached a model 44 below one of them just for fun and to see what it would look like. A little to clunky for my tastes but I bet the light output would be awesome with a set up like that on each side.

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Old 01-29-2013, 09:11 AM   #3052
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I just posted this over in the Cylops thread, FYI.

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I do not normally post in other vendors thread, however you do not have your facts straight about the model 60. It does not use 40watts, this is a common mistake, especially by marketing folks. I am an engineer, the light uses 28watts@12v, measured with a calibrated amp meter. Not the 40 watts you stated.

The light picture of the model 60 looks ridiculous, looks like the light is pointed at the ground, very obvious as you see the top of the main beam is over exposed on the lower part of the picture.

I invite any comparison but seriously it needs to be done by a third party that is not biased, any volunteers?
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:07 AM   #3053
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Hi Sanjoh,

I just read that clash. I would definitely be interested in being this third party. However even if the other party(s) agree, that would mean shipping to Europe. Taxes are 21% excluding import duties... I do have a good camera to make a very comparative range of pictures though. And of course a good interest in this stuff since planning for additional lightning for my KTM 990SMT that I hope to get in march. And finally the nights are still long in this northern part of Europe.

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You might even consider to also put the M61..64 in this comparative arena.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:03 PM   #3054
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I invite any comparison but seriously it needs to be done by a third party that is not biased, any volunteers?.
I might be... like the previous - if both can agree. I'll try and get at least three people involved for the comparison. PM me if your interested...
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:18 PM   #3055
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Ι Have two model 60 and two model 40 on my 640 Adv ...

Comparison?

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Old 01-29-2013, 02:00 PM   #3056
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Thumb Received lights !

Just to let you know that I received the lights yesterday
Will post pics when installed
Hooked them up temporarly and... WOW !!!
More as soon as I can install... prepping for Elefantentreffen.. so much stuff to do... so little time...

Great stuff Sandjoh...
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Old 01-29-2013, 04:36 PM   #3057
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Just to let you know that I received the lights yesterday
Will post pics when installed
Hooked them up temporarly and... WOW !!!
More as soon as I can install... prepping for Elefantentreffen.. so much stuff to do... so little time...

Great stuff Sandjoh...
Great to hear you are happy with the lights. Some pics of the Elefantentreffen Rally would be great, sounds like fun!
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Old 01-29-2013, 04:44 PM   #3058
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Messed around a little last night and mounted them to the bike so I could see where would be best. Hooked up just 1 to power so I could see them in action. To my eye and the quick pics I took with my cell phone so I could compare,, the M61 looks to have about the same size and brightness of the model 30 beam with just a touch less spill light. Bigger reflector looks to make up difference in raw lumens ( 1500 for model 30 and 900 for model 61). Of course I'm just going by what I saw on the door of my garage and I have not done an outside test to check out total distance.

They mount up good and solid and I like the way they look. Here they are mounted to handguards, hanging down.

Mounted to guards but on top. I attached a model 44 below one of them just for fun and to see what it would look like. A little to clunky for my tastes but I bet the light output would be awesome with a set up like that on each side.
Good looking install, you are spot on with the difference between the M61 spot and the M30 spot. Here's an outside comparo of the 2.

M61


M30
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:01 PM   #3059
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Good looking install, you are spot on with the difference between the M61 spot and the M30 spot. Here's an outside comparo of the 2.

M61


M30
Now, can we see the M62?

Thanks!

Never mind, I found it on your web site!
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Old 01-31-2013, 02:59 PM   #3060
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Shhhhhhh,,,,, made some new fork mounts at work today from 3/4" black UHMW plastic to mount up the M61's.





Got 'em hooked up to.





Should be able to test them out sometime in late March. Damn snow!
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