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Old 01-30-2013, 10:16 AM   #5836
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A moped, called 'brommer' here, is a motorcycle with 49.9cc engines or less. Like these:


The main difference is in the wheels.

A scooter can be a 'bromscooter' [49cc] or a motor scooter [50+ cc], but they have smaller wheels and a space between the seat and the handlebars where you can step through, like with Vespa:



So, basically, a motorcycle with a small displacement engine, less than 50 CC, is a moped.
A Vespa, or Vespa-clone, is a scooter, and can be a moped [<50CC] or a motor scooter [>50cc].
seems a terribly complicated answer, that doesn't really define 'moped' other than being a small motorcycle with big wheels.

I always thought a true Moped was a motor driven cycle that could also be propelled by turning a set of bicycle style pedals. Mo (motor) + Ped (Pedal)
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:39 AM   #5837
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seems a terribly complicated answer, that doesn't really define 'moped' other than being a small motorcycle with big wheels.

I always thought a true Moped was a motor driven cycle that could also be propelled by turning a set of bicycle style pedals. Mo (motor) + Ped (Pedal)
Well, in a sense you're right. There used to be a law that moped had to have pedals:




When the law was rescinded and the pedals were no longer mandatory, it opened the way for moped without pedals, like the aforementioned scooters.
So, every <50cc scooter is a moped, but not every moped is a scooter.
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:42 AM   #5838
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I always thought that for something to be considered a scooter the engine had to be on/part of the rear swingarm.

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Old 01-30-2013, 10:43 AM   #5839
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Old 01-31-2013, 08:53 AM   #5840
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From the wiki entry for moped:

Ontario Canada rule:
(e) that does not have sufficient power to enable the bicycle to attain a speed greater than 50 kilometres per hour (31 mph) on level ground within a distance of 2 kilometres (1.2 mi) from a standing start.

Not exactly going to burn up the quarter mile.
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Old 01-31-2013, 10:04 AM   #5841
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I recently rented a moped which is a motorized two wheel vehicle where the operator does not need a motorcycle license endorsement. AFAIK, it only needed to be under 50cc. The one I had indicated 55 kph with two up. Not sure if we were really traveling at that rate but that was the speedo's indication.

I think that in many areas, the operator does not need any driver's license at all. The place I rented it from did not copy down my driver's license info implying to me that the demand to see it was for I.D. only.
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Old 01-31-2013, 10:57 AM   #5842
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One day I decided to ride my motorcycle to work. A surprised co-worker said " I didn't know you rode motorcycles, you don't look the type"

Huh?
I get that all the time my self. "You look more like a Scooter guy."

Must be my glasses.
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:16 AM   #5843
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Since you're a new rider, I'm going to give you some very important advice. The answer to the above question is, "No, sorry. I don't let people ride my bikes." If they continue asking the answer becomes, "No. And quit fucking asking me. It's starting to piss me off."

There's no need to feel like a dick when you say it. The person asking is actually being a dick simply by asking. Anyone who know anything about bikes knows not to ask.
I just don't have the personality for that, nor the build to fight off the ensuing violent response. They may be a dick, but I think my best chance of keeping my bike and my bones intact is by ignoring them / shaking my head.
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:32 PM   #5844
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I had an odd encounter the other day

I was at a pub for a classic bike meet and I decided to go on my (kickstart only) supermoto which doesn't always play ball when starting from cold. An older guy comes up to me and wants to chat about bike things then he becomes an expert mechanic and starts pointing out all of the things that are "wrong" with my bike. The chain is too loose, the chain is rubbing on the tyre, the tyre is too close to the swingarm, your numberplate is too small.... I decided to bail out at that point as my friends had left me alone with this guy who was starting to make me feel uncomfortable! I hop on, give it a few kicks and get nothing back. I decompress, try again, still nothing. While I am fiddling with the choke he walks back over looking very concerned and spits this gem out

"Oh no! Has someone STOLEN YOUR SPARK PLUG?"

I am pleased to say that nobody stole my spark plug, my chain is not too loose nor are my tyres rubbing on anything and I made it home safely!
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Old 01-31-2013, 05:40 PM   #5845
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Not a stupid question but here's my stupid answer.

My K75 contains parts from lord knows how many different bikes/years so whenever somebody inevitably asks what year it is:

Me: "About twelve."

Then I explain that it's a Frankenbike.
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Old 02-01-2013, 06:20 AM   #5846
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Not a stupid question but here's my stupid answer.

My K75 contains parts from lord knows how many different bikes/years so whenever somebody inevitably asks what year it is:

Me: "About twelve."

Then I explain that it's a Frankenbike.
This Johnny Cash song is for you:

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Old 02-01-2013, 06:24 AM   #5847
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I just don't have the personality for that, nor the build to fight off the ensuing violent response. They may be a dick, but I think my best chance of keeping my bike and my bones intact is by ignoring them / shaking my head.
Most importantly, the answer is always "No."
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Old 02-01-2013, 02:33 PM   #5848
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Most importantly, the answer is always "No."
What about..."I'll think about it and get back to you. See ya!" VROOM.........
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Old 02-01-2013, 03:52 PM   #5849
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I just don't have the personality for that, nor the build to fight off the ensuing violent response.
Good Lord. What sort of cretins are you dealing with that would offer violence when (correctly) denied permission to ride your motorcycle?
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Old 02-01-2013, 05:08 PM   #5850
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Good Lord. What sort of cretins are you dealing with that would offer violence when (correctly) denied permission to ride your motorcycle?
Haha. Jim's suggestion was a bit more than denial of permission.

I had a situation today that cracked me up. There were two Mormon guys that were biking down the neighborhood. My mailbox is at the end of the street, and I gave a friendly wave to them when I got my mail. When I got to my house, I quickly started getting my gear on to go ride. I had forgotten about them whilst putting my boots on by the door, and with all my gear except for one boot on, a knock came to the door. I answered and remembered. I treat these guys respectfully. Only one of them was doing the talking, and he was clearly very nervous. After about 30 seconds, he posed a question to me, and I indicated that I wasn't interested. Then, as I'm about to close the door, the guy in the back (who hadn't said a word yet), yells "what kind of bike do you ride?" I told him and closed the door. I couldn't contain my laughter once it was shut. Nothing wrong with asking, but he clearly wasn't too focused on his mission at hand
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