Rally bike rehab - Page 39

header · 11-07-2012, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayduke

We're going to need to see better photos.

Alright Ned, we all know you've got some pics of this thing.

I need another photo for my form/technique thread.

Motorfiets · 01-30-2013, 07:00 PM

aight then... any photo's Ned?

Yellow Pig · 01-31-2013, 07:18 AM

Where are those Baja photos?

neduro · 01-31-2013, 10:27 AM

Here's one... the rest will have to wait for the ride report.

I had an awesome time with the bike. Managed to meet the ex-factory mechanic that cared for this machine in the past, got his help sorting out the rear shock, and got a great feeling with it on the trip.

What amazes me most is how big a difference the trellis frame/ etc make at high speed. Soft sand is dispatched with ease I have never found on an enduro based, bike, my theory is that when you ahve the front wheel half buried, and are at full throttle to keep going, the XCW ties itself in a knot. This thing doesn't- dead straight and true. Same with rock hits at high speed- it eats them, you feel the suspension move but none of the whippiness of an enduro bike.

Had a blast riding it, now have to figure out what's next for it.

Oh, and as for the If you see Kay wine graphics, announcement coming soon...

Yellow Pig · 01-31-2013, 10:48 AM

What does that thing weigh?

YetiGS · 01-31-2013, 11:02 AM

Damn Ned, you're a worse tease than my wife!

Please put a link the ride report and announcement here, ok?

MORT666 · 01-31-2013, 02:10 PM

I have removed dents from fuel tanks fill with water apply air pressure slowly tap around the dent edge,it works.

Beez · 02-01-2013, 06:33 AM

Now I am no engineer but I have read a lot of Kevin Cameron articles.

I would guess that the single back bone of the enduro frames simply lack the rigidity of the rally frames. Probably weighs less though. There is always a trade off.

Deadly99 · 02-01-2013, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neduro

... the rest will have to wait for the ride report.

Hayduke · 02-01-2013, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neduro

Here's one... the rest will have to wait for the ride report.

"The Radio Played...Baja?"

CodyY · 02-01-2013, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayduke

"The Radio Played...Baja?"

Giggity

Unkgd · 02-01-2013, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayduke

"The Radio Played...Baja?"

Not that we are impatient or anything like that

DirtJack · 02-01-2013, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neduro

Here's one... the rest will have to wait for the ride report.

What amazes me most is how big a difference the trellis frame/ etc make at high speed. Soft sand is dispatched with ease I have never found on an enduro based, bike, my theory is that when you ahve the front wheel half buried, and are at full throttle to keep going, the XCW ties itself in a knot. This thing doesn't- dead straight and true. Same with rock hits at high speed- it eats them, you feel the suspension move but none of the whippiness of an enduro bike.

Had a blast riding it, now have to figure out what's next for it.

I've wondered about this too, watching Dakar footage of the RR bikes at speed in soft stuff. I have a 690 and it pretty much rides soft sand like my 300 XC (you want to be on the power to lighten the front). The Dakar racers seem to weight the front end when they stand; the back moves around, but the front seems planted. I think it may be more than just the trellis frame, but a combination of other parameters. Don't the RR's have long swing arms, longer wheel base, different rake and trail than a typical dirt bike chassis?

YetiGS · 02-01-2013, 08:45 PM

Ned, you mention how awesome the 690RR does in the sand compared to the XC4 based bike. How does it compare in the tight, technical stuff?

Motorfiets · 02-01-2013, 09:17 PM

deposit has been put in for my own former rally spec 525!

now.... anyone still have the 660 tanks they'd like to sell? Or even the mecasystems tanks?

01-30-2013, 07:00 PM	#572
Motorfiets Beastly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2007 Location: North of Jack Daniel's, South of Country Music Oddometer: 2,974	aight then... any photo's Ned? __________________ Ben My Photo's

01-31-2013, 07:18 AM	#573
Yellow Pig Allergic to Asphalt! Joined: Oct 2004 Location: Colorado Oddometer: 6,000	Where are those Baja photos? __________________ So Many Idiots, So Few Comets!!!!!!!!!

01-31-2013, 10:27 AM	#574
neduro ^OP Tuareg 2013 Joined: Jul 2003 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Oddometer: 11,344	Here's one... the rest will have to wait for the ride report. I had an awesome time with the bike. Managed to meet the ex-factory mechanic that cared for this machine in the past, got his help sorting out the rear shock, and got a great feeling with it on the trip. What amazes me most is how big a difference the trellis frame/ etc make at high speed. Soft sand is dispatched with ease I have never found on an enduro based, bike, my theory is that when you ahve the front wheel half buried, and are at full throttle to keep going, the XCW ties itself in a knot. This thing doesn't- dead straight and true. Same with rock hits at high speed- it eats them, you feel the suspension move but none of the whippiness of an enduro bike. Had a blast riding it, now have to figure out what's next for it. Oh, and as for the If you see Kay wine graphics, announcement coming soon... __________________ For Sale: FJ60, or Defender 90, Doubletake Mirrors- Folding D/S mirror that is both useful and indestructible. Dual Sport Riding Techniques DVDs: Clear instructional DVDs to improve off-road skills.

01-31-2013, 10:48 AM	#575
Yellow Pig Allergic to Asphalt! Joined: Oct 2004 Location: Colorado Oddometer: 6,000	What does that thing weigh? __________________ So Many Idiots, So Few Comets!!!!!!!!!

01-31-2013, 11:02 AM	#576
YetiGS Random Hooligan Joined: Apr 2007 Location: San Diego Oddometer: 6,194	Damn Ned, you're a worse tease than my wife! Please put a link the ride report and announcement here, ok? __________________ -Scott- Semper Fi '04 BMW R1150GSA, '08 KTM 450EXC-R, '04 KTM 625 SXC "A pessimist thinks all women are bad. An optimist is one who hopes they are." Chauncey Depew

01-31-2013, 02:10 PM	#577
MORT666 Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Aug 2009 Location: U.K Oddometer: 199	I have removed dents from fuel tanks fill with water apply air pressure slowly tap around the dent edge,it works.

02-01-2013, 06:33 AM	#578
Beez Given to fly Joined: Aug 2004 Location: Framingham, MA Oddometer: 5,500	Now I am no engineer but I have read a lot of Kevin Cameron articles. I would guess that the single back bone of the enduro frames simply lack the rigidity of the rally frames. Probably weighs less though. There is always a trade off.

02-01-2013, 08:45 PM	#584
YetiGS Random Hooligan Joined: Apr 2007 Location: San Diego Oddometer: 6,194	Ned, you mention how awesome the 690RR does in the sand compared to the XC4 based bike. How does it compare in the tight, technical stuff? __________________ -Scott- Semper Fi '04 BMW R1150GSA, '08 KTM 450EXC-R, '04 KTM 625 SXC "A pessimist thinks all women are bad. An optimist is one who hopes they are." Chauncey Depew

02-01-2013, 09:17 PM	#585
Motorfiets Beastly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2007 Location: North of Jack Daniel's, South of Country Music Oddometer: 2,974	deposit has been put in for my own former rally spec 525! now.... anyone still have the 660 tanks they'd like to sell? Or even the mecasystems tanks? __________________ Ben My Photo's

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