Bicycle thread - Page 1814

overlandr · 02-01-2013, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Gummee!

Of the 2, get the newer AL frame. Geometry is going to be better all-round. The late 80s was still the time of the first gen or two of mtn bikes and the geometries weren't 'right.'

Ok, apologies if I didn't fill you in on a usage profile. I'm really only going to use it for riding around town so urban usage - no interest in cross country or downhill at all. Geometry? I always thought that that is catered for fully via changing the saddle or handlebar positions and if necessary, buying a new stem? What about the weight angle - has anyone any URLs or figures on typical weights for Fe vs Al frames?

championsound · 02-01-2013, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by fullmonte

I've read good things about the Maxxis Ardent 2.4, but don't have any personal experience with it.
http://www.cambriabike.com/Maxxis-Ar...Tire-Black.asp

The Ardent's a good tire, it just doesn't roll as well as I'd like.

championsound · 02-01-2013, 09:11 AM

And FWIW, steel is always going to be a winner in my book, especially Tange Prestige and OX Platinum.

HOT DAMN! · 02-01-2013, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Askel

Guess I need to go ahead with my "FATBIKING IS NOT A CRIME" sticker order.

Sounds very similar to when Burton was developing the snowboard back in the day and we would get banned from mountains for being out of control snowboarders.

fullmonte · 02-01-2013, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by championsound

The Ardent's a good tire, it just doesn't roll as well as I'd like.

If you want FAST and can go down to a high volume 2.2, I've been very impressed with the Panaracer Driver 29Pro. Lateral grip is excellent. I've only tried it on the rear so far (325+miles), but am loving it so much that I bought another. My review here:
http://www.mtbr.com/cat/tires-and-wh...6_1564crx.aspx

edit: Bought them from ebikestop.com for $40 and they ship quickly.

zouch · 02-01-2013, 09:43 AM

don't confuse Geometry with Fit.
Geometry refers to Head Tube Angle, Fork Rake/Trail, wheelbase; things that more affect handling.
what you were describing relates to fitting the bike to you.

as for weight; if you're only going to be riding it around town, the difference in materials weight shouldn't even be a significant consideration.

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Originally Posted by overlandr

Ok, apologies if I didn't fill you in on a usage profile. I'm really only going to use it for riding around town so urban usage - no interest in cross country or downhill at all. Geometry? I always thought that that is catered for fully via changing the saddle or handlebar positions and if necessary, buying a new stem? What about the weight angle - has anyone any URLs or figures on typical weights for Fe vs Al frames?

Gummee! · 02-01-2013, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by championsound

And FWIW, steel is always going to be a winner in my book, especially Tange Prestige and OX Platinum.

I'll agree with that.

I fought off the couch monster and rode on over to the bank. Massive headwind would be an understatement.

...but the tailwind getting back was worth it!

M

Weirdo · 02-01-2013, 12:17 PM

Did an hour and a half solo in the pissing rain as it got dark. Got completely soaked, covered in road grime from passing trucks and still arrived home with a smile on my face.

Hardest part of winter riding is the first pedal stroke, after that I'm good.

Managed 500 miles for January.

Gummee! · 02-01-2013, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Weirdo

Managed 500 miles for January.

Ya got me beat by 7.36mi on the month. (sorta. Didn't get my Edge 500 till the 10th)

Guess I shouldn't have slacked off those few days.

M

championsound · 02-01-2013, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by fullmonte

If you want FAST and can go down to a high volume 2.2, I've been very impressed with the Panaracer Driver 29Pro.

Thanks for the tip! I'll check those out.

And while you guys are talking about frame materials...

Is anyone here the lucky owner of one of these rare bikes -

Rhygin

Towards the tail end of their existence they were producing frames out of Columbus Metax tubing (stainless steel).

Gummee! · 02-01-2013, 01:39 PM

I

-ed over those Rhygins

Never knew anyone that had one tho.

You wanna talk about 'little known' Grove Innovations was it. I've seen one (1) of em. It was like this one (not the same paint job thank doG!) with a steel DT that was the width of the BB shell.

You wanna talk STIFF!

M

rbrsddn · 02-01-2013, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by championsound

Thanks for the tip! I'll check those out.

And while you guys are talking about frame materials...

Is anyone here the lucky owner of one of these rare bikes -

Rhygin

Towards the tail end of their existence they were producing frames out of Columbus Metax tubing (stainless steel).

I've got a Rhygin Stainless road bike. Bought it new in '98. That Rasta is a beauty. I've never seen another Rhygin in the wild.

Weirdo · 02-01-2013, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Gummee!

Ya got me beat by 7.36mi on the month. (sorta. Didn't get my Edge 500 till the 10th)

Guess I shouldn't have slacked off those few days.

M

I'd imagine that you did more than 7 miles in ten days, so you got me beat, easily.

I'm thinking that a 10 000 km year is a good possibility for me. It'd be nice if it stopped raining sometime this year.

championsound · 02-01-2013, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gummee!

I

-ed over those Rhygins

Never knew anyone that had one tho.

You wanna talk about 'little known' Grove Innovations was it. I've seen one (1) of em. It was like this one (not the same paint job thank doG!) with a steel DT that was the width of the BB shell.

You wanna talk STIFF!

M

I remember Grove! Mostly for that bar/stem combo. Never saw one in the flesh but those down tubes remind of the these -

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbrsddn

I've got a Rhygin Stainless road bike. Bought it new in '98. That Rasta is a beauty. I've never seen another Rhygin in the wild.

You bastid! Rhygins were/are on my bucket list of bikes to own (along with the original WTB Phoenix, an original Yo Eddy with the "Big 1 inch" fork, and a Sycip with those mitered stays). At the time those bikes were available, I was too damn poor to buy one.

BobbySands · 02-01-2013, 04:01 PM

When I worked for a framebuilder in PA we saw Grove frames and that Hammerhead bar/steam. Oversized, thinwall chrom-mo frames sound great. But really, they weren't as thin-walled as you'd think and they were plenty heavy. They were unique with that multi-shaped tube, though. There wasn't much in the way of shaped chro-mo back then. We weighed one for a customer and then I picked a Raleigh Peak (bonded aluminum) with XT (this was before XTR IIRC) on it and weighed it. And watched his face fall.

They were stiff and for those short, wicked steep climbs out east they were well suited. That yuppie-flage paint, not so much.

02-01-2013, 01:39 PM	#27206
Gummee! That's MR. Toothless Joined: May 2004 Location: NoVA for now... Oddometer: 25,895	I -ed over those Rhygins Never knew anyone that had one tho. You wanna talk about 'little known' Grove Innovations was it. I've seen one (1) of em. It was like this one (not the same paint job thank doG!) with a steel DT that was the width of the BB shell. You wanna talk STIFF! M __________________ There. I've moved back to VA. Can you PLEASE change the weather?!

02-01-2013, 04:01 PM	#27210
BobbySands JockeyfullofBourbon Joined: Jan 2006 Location: Your man of The Da Vinci Code. Oddometer: 6,045	When I worked for a framebuilder in PA we saw Grove frames and that Hammerhead bar/steam. Oversized, thinwall chrom-mo frames sound great. But really, they weren't as thin-walled as you'd think and they were plenty heavy. They were unique with that multi-shaped tube, though. There wasn't much in the way of shaped chro-mo back then. We weighed one for a customer and then I picked a Raleigh Peak (bonded aluminum) with XT (this was before XTR IIRC) on it and weighed it. And watched his face fall. They were stiff and for those short, wicked steep climbs out east they were well suited. That yuppie-flage paint, not so much. __________________ "So what makes this protest different is that you're set to die, Bobby?" --May well come to that. "You start a hunger strike to protest for what you believe in. You don't start already determined to die or am I missing somethin' here?" -- It's in their hands. Our message is clear. They're seeing our determination.

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championsound Adventurer Joined: Nov 2007 Oddometer: 57	And FWIW, steel is always going to be a winner in my book, especially Tange Prestige and OX Platinum.

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Weirdo Welcome to you're "DOOM" Joined: Oct 2003 Location: Prince Rupert BC Oddometer: 4,402	Did an hour and a half solo in the pissing rain as it got dark. Got completely soaked, covered in road grime from passing trucks and still arrived home with a smile on my face. Hardest part of winter riding is the first pedal stroke, after that I'm good. Managed 500 miles for January.