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Old 01-20-2013, 03:11 AM   #16
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It seems to me that the F800 is better for tall riders. There seems to be more room between the seat and footpeg. Does anyone know the stats on this?
Even if the f800GS is "better" for tall riders, remember that you need a new windscreen if you are tall. I'm 1.83m high (about 6" I think o0?) and I prefered installing lower pegs from SW Motech, better for my knees.
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Old 01-28-2013, 12:40 PM   #17
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05 R12GS to F800GS

Well...I just pulled the trigger on a left-over 2012 F800GS in Triple Black. I decided to go ahead and trade the 2005 R1200GS due to the trade allowance they gave me and the equally good discount they gave on the left-over F800GS. Only issue is I gotta drive from North Central Indiana through Chicago (worst part) to Schlossmann's in Milwaukee to pick it up. Hopefully the weather holds out for a trip this Saturday or next. I am really looking forward to the change to a lighter bike, etc.!
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Old 01-28-2013, 04:04 PM   #18
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Well...I just pulled the trigger on a left-over 2012 F800GS in Triple Black. I decided to go ahead and trade the 2005 R1200GS due to the trade allowance they gave me and the equally good discount they gave on the left-over F800GS. Only issue is I gotta drive from North Central Indiana through Chicago (worst part) to Schlossmann's in Milwaukee to pick it up. Hopefully the weather holds out for a trip this Saturday or next. I am really looking forward to the change to a lighter bike, etc.!



Let the farkleing begin.............and the wallet emptying


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Old 01-29-2013, 12:43 PM   #19
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I have both bikes. The 1200 adv is great cross country, two up,does well on dirt/gravel roads. I really like the ESA. It can do just about anything. Long mileage days comfortably, it can do more stuff off road than I would want to try with it....

The 800, in my opinion, is a great one up road bike that can do pretty well off road too. I can pull 600 mile days easy on it, (granted I did replace the seat)........ and it does pretty aggressive off road really well.....I would say a true 50/50 bike. I have ridden it fairly aggressive on the road with absolutely no complaints....same off road.

Mainly hwy use with 2 up, the 1200 is hard to beat...... about a 50/50 mix one up I prefer the 800.
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:52 PM   #20
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Ditto for me, I use the F8 for EVERYTHING. Had an R1200GS before my F8 and yes it is a great bike but if i had to choose and as uncle sam is putting me to pasture and I can only afford one, it will be the F8.
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Old 01-31-2013, 05:33 PM   #21
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Have any of you changed from a R1200GS to the F800GS? If so, are you happy with the swap and what are the differences? I have been riding an R1200GS for about 5 years, but as age catches up with me, I have been thinking about the 800 being a little lighter and easier to handle on dirt roads. It looks like the weight difference is around 50 pounds and that should be noticeable.
Not worth the change. I was in your same situation and now I regret it. 50# is not worth all what you give up in torque, comfort in the road, and all the good things your are used to.
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Old 02-01-2013, 07:04 PM   #22
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made the switch...happy and sad

So after two R1200GS's I swapped down to an F800GS when I started riding more aggressive offpavement/offroad stuffs. And that's the ONLY reason to switch. In my mind the two bikes are not really bigger/smaller, but tools that favor one kind of riding over another. If you're willing to trade offroad ease for onroad comfort, get the R12. If you're willing to trade onroad comfort for offroad ease, get the F8. Simple as that. There's a host of tradeoffs beyond that (gas mileage, height, electrical farkle power, etc.) but honestly that's the only reason I could come up with that actually made sense.

Figure out what kind of riding you really do, and then get the bike that makes that easiest. Then go out and ride it =)
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:13 PM   #23
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Good answer, Its a perplexing question. My first Adventure Tourer was a 1968 CL350, so an F8 is definitely a Rolls Royce-Caddy compared to that bike !
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Old 02-04-2013, 11:08 PM   #24
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+1

LJRAT, absolutely. I'm frequently reminded by those familiar with the old ways that there was once no such thing as a road bike, or race bike, or street bike or dual sport...they were all just bikes, and people made do with what they had. My exwife's first "dual sport" was an Yamaha SRX250, which she took over hill and dale in New England without much problem at all...although when she finally got on an F650GS the experience was familiar yet shockingly easier. The new kit has made things easier...in specific and highly limited ways. This isn't a knock, just an observation. However, it does prompt questions like these, particularly for the GS which is such a utility bike, but isn't really awesome except when averaged (which you never end up doing with a bike...except in one's memory, or at the campfire, or when putting up an ad for the thing on ADVRider =)

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Good answer, Its a perplexing question. My first Adventure Tourer was a 1968 CL350, so an F8 is definitely a Rolls Royce-Caddy compared to that bike !
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Old 02-05-2013, 03:31 AM   #25
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So after two R1200GS's I swapped down to an F800GS when I started riding more aggressive offpavement/offroad stuffs. And that's the ONLY reason to switch. In my mind the two bikes are not really bigger/smaller, but tools that favor one kind of riding over another. If you're willing to trade offroad ease for onroad comfort, get the R12. If you're willing to trade onroad comfort for offroad ease, get the F8. Simple as that. There's a host of tradeoffs beyond that (gas mileage, height, electrical farkle power, etc.) but honestly that's the only reason I could come up with that actually made sense.

Figure out what kind of riding you really do, and then get the bike that makes that easiest. Then go out and ride it =)
+1. Ancillary stuff aside, looking at them both predominantly as "bikes" and the main differences in riding experience associated with them, this is my verdict too.
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Old 02-05-2013, 09:57 AM   #26
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"Keep up with anyone on the highway or in the twisties" (with that anemic engine and 21 inch front tire)?

The 1200 isn't really a fast bike, but IT can be pushed fairly well. Performance wise, the F800 is a dog on the road, and (almost) everybody says so. It's not just me!

The F8 is narrower, but taller with much better ground clearence (can be lowered) Although it's still heavy by dirt bike standards, it's MUCH better in the rough stuff than the 1200. Some people do, but I wouldn't travel 4,000 mile/week like I do on the 1200.

I'm 6' 1" and only comfortable on the F8 for an hour or so, where the R12 is good for all day, every day. If you're going to be covering long distances, or strafing the twisties, you don't want an F800GS.

If you're comitted to longer stretches of dirt road (or rougher stuff) and not much highway it's the other way around.
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the 800 in the road is DOG and unstable compared to the 1200. I whish I had the $ to go back to the 12oo
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Old 02-08-2013, 12:56 PM   #27
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For those who had ridden both F800GS and the R1200GS, one question please: Is the engine on the R1200GS smoother than the F800GS? The F800/650GS engine is pretty smooth to about 80mph and you can feel some buzzing, wonder if the R1200GS has the same buzziness.

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Old 02-09-2013, 07:29 PM   #28
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1200 is very smooth, 800 is somewhat buzzy at speed but tuning and gearing can all but eliminate MOST of the annoying bit.
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