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Old 02-02-2013, 10:25 AM   #73411
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The manual says it shortens the overall length, not just the travel. So you get 1.6" of ride height difference just between the two holes? The two holes are only about 5/8" apart. So, where's the other 1" come from? Not arguing here, just trying to learn. Holding the parts in my hands and looking at them, it looks like you'd limit travel and length by flipping the spring seat.
The amount it's lowered is measured at the rear axle so the length of the swingarm is where most of the additional inch comes from. Also there is the geometry of the shock linkage.

Flipping the stock spring seat only limits the travel but does also move the location of the spring on the shock body.
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Old 02-02-2013, 10:40 AM   #73412
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So, if you don't flip the spring seat, only move the bolt from the bottom to top hole in the clevis, the result is the same amount of lowering, 1.6" ?
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:07 AM   #73413
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So, if you don't flip the spring seat, only move the bolt from the bottom to top hole in the clevis, the result is the same amount of lowering, 1.6" ?
Yes, same amount of lowering.
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:11 AM   #73414
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:22 AM   #73415
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So, if you don't flip the spring seat, only move the bolt from the bottom to top hole in the clevis, the result is the same amount of lowering, 1.6" ?
Yes, like Procycle said the lowering is the same regardless if you flip the spring seat or not. But you will risk the tire hitting the fender (or possibly other components hitting) if you don't limit the travel by flipping the spring seat which raises the bump stop to limit shock travel.
Remember the spring has to also be moved up the shock body (per the manual) when you flip the spring seat.

Personally (although I haven't done any measurements) I think the prelaod settings Suzuki states in the manual also play into their 1.6" claim. In other words you would have to adjust to their lowest preload setting to achieve the maximum height reduction.


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Old 02-02-2013, 11:48 AM   #73416
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:04 PM   #73417
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...Personally (although I haven't done any measurements) I think the prelaod settings Suzuki states in the manual also play into their 1.6" claim. In other words you would have to adjust to their lowest preload setting to achieve the maximum height reduction.

They do.
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Old 02-02-2013, 02:52 PM   #73418
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Went out this afternoon to give it hell, and finish the valve adjustment I've been trying to complete for months. Well ... I figured out what the clanging and rattling was. The bike swallowed the lock nut and the adjusting screw off of the rocker arm. Now all I have to do is load up the bike and get it over to the bike shop down the road. Live and learn ... The hard way.

Awe who am I kidding, I'm to cheap to take it anywhere, guess I'll see what the engine inards look like. Hope ya'll don't mind the onslaught of questions I'm likely to be asking.

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Old 02-02-2013, 02:54 PM   #73419
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Went out this afternoon to give it hell, and finish the valve adjustment I've been trying to complete for months. Well ... I figured out what the clanging and rattling was. The bike swallowed the lock nut and the adjusting screw off of the rocker arm. Now all I have to do is load up the bike and get it over to the bike shop down the road. Live and learn ... The hard way.
Ouch, did that with my old 1150 GS years ago. Never did find the nut.
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:22 PM   #73420
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I was hoping you'd post that link. It shows how wide the adjustment angle tolerance is on the cam, instead of struggling to find the 'T' in the window: 'one straw please'. And that you don't have to remove either of the two seized inspection plugs in the stator cover. You could put it in Krusty's DR index.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=636386
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:44 PM   #73421
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I am re-posting this since my original post was deleted because i forgot to add prices, my second post was deleted due to forbidden links to Kijiji.

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Old 02-02-2013, 10:03 PM   #73422
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Went out this afternoon to give it hell, and finish the valve adjustment I've been trying to complete for months. Well ... I figured out what the clanging and rattling was. The bike swallowed the lock nut and the adjusting screw off of the rocker arm. Now all I have to do is load up the bike and get it over to the bike shop down the road. Live and learn ... The hard way.

Awe who am I kidding, I'm to cheap to take it anywhere, guess I'll see what the engine inards look like. Hope ya'll don't mind the onslaught of questions I'm likely to be asking.
Sorry to hear about the findings. Folks will be glad to answer your questions. Learn how to post pics; everybody loves pics.

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Hi, I have sold my DR650, moving on to a KTM 990 Adventure. DR650 is a great bike, it gave me lots of satisfactions, but it was time to try something new. Anyhow I have a whole bunch of accessories for sale.
Sorry to see you go, I hope the KTM treats you well.
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Old 02-02-2013, 10:31 PM   #73423
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Question Blew a fork seal!

Was hauling my bike ... and when I went to unload I saw fork oil leaking all over the truck bed!

I had no evidence of leaking or seeping before this.

I've never had one fail this way. In the past when seals failed, there was always increasing seeping and dripping on the garage floor.

Can I just refill the shock oil to the proper level? Or is my seal ruined and I have to replace it?

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Old 02-02-2013, 10:50 PM   #73424
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Hey Jeff - ProCycle,

Do you offer shorter or have found shorter fork boots that compensate when using a fork brace? The stock boots have to be pushed up a good bit to sit above the fork brace. Do your aftermarket fork boots fit better with a fork brace?

Thanks Bill

ps if you can find the supplier for this cap http://www.vstroma.com/oilfillercap.htm it fits the DR perfectly (the exact same cap used on the DR & Vstrom. i compared when i owned both bikes at the same time) and this cap is a great security cap for RTW travelers. have it on my bike - see pic below.

here are the pricier options:
http://www.touratech-usa.com/Store/1...rom-DL650-1000
http://www.touratech-usa.com/Store/P...rom-DL650-1000

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Old 02-02-2013, 10:53 PM   #73425
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So I replaced the wiring harness by myself in like an hour and a half AND IT RUNS. I'm going to put all the little wire ties and put everything back on tomorrow and it will take me another 45 minutes or so so maybe 3 hours tops total. And that dealer quoted me 1300 dollars, said I needed new keys, ignition, battery. I will quote them "the more wires we pulled the more it was burned up and it's burned all the way to the ignition".

What the fuck!! Why would people try to literally fuck you like that? I can't believe how naive I was, I will never go to a fucking dealer service department again. Ugh that makes me sick. I am pissed that I paid them the 200 to tow it to their shop and diagnose it. I'm going to go back and tell them I want the 100 bucks back for diagnosing it because they failed in that task by telling me all this other shit was fucked up when it wasn't. Mother fuckers. I hope I put that shit on my american express. I am pretty sure I did. Those fuckers.
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