ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Bikes > Road warriors
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 02-02-2013, 07:50 AM   #646
motocopter
Studly Adventurer
 
motocopter's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Location: Freemont County, Colorado
Oddometer: 533
Quote:
Originally Posted by allonsye View Post
New to the area and a sport-touring guy.

Welcome to the area!



Are you now in NC?
__________________
- marc

2012 Concours 1400 | 2008 Z1000 | 1999 WR-400F
motocopter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2013, 05:37 PM   #647
allonsye
("lets go!")
 
allonsye's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Location: The North Carolina Dry Pond
Oddometer: 862
Quote:
Originally Posted by motocopter View Post
Welcome to the area!



Are you now in NC?
Yes, Denver (NC) to be exact.
__________________
"A good traveller has no fixed plans and is not intent on arriving" Lao Tzu (570-490 BC)
Current:
02' GS1150R
06' 650 Vstrom
allonsye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2013, 06:34 PM   #648
motocopter
Studly Adventurer
 
motocopter's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Location: Freemont County, Colorado
Oddometer: 533
Quote:
Originally Posted by allonsye View Post
Yes, Denver (NC) to be exact.
Not far from the good riding, are ya?



Oh, you a NASCAR fan as well? You're practically in the heart of it.
__________________
- marc

2012 Concours 1400 | 2008 Z1000 | 1999 WR-400F
motocopter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2013, 07:43 PM   #649
EvanADV
Big Bearded Boy
 
EvanADV's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Location: Joplor, NC
Oddometer: 1,331
At age 19, about 4 years ago, I bought my first road bike: a 2007 Bandit 1250S.

Nobody I knew even knew what it was, and they were completely puzzled at my choice.

I took off on a 10,000 mile trip on it one summer 2 years later. Bolted up some pelicans as panniers, a top case.

Discovered this site later and got into Dr-650's for a bit. Then ended up with a Wee Strom last March.

Looking back now that Bandit was quite cramped for me at 6'4", but I made it work. Plentiful power, stone cold reliable, but a world apart comfort-wise from the Wee.

I don't think I'll ever buy another "sport tourer". The adventure bikes are just too awesome now, and it'd be too much of a compromise to loose the "adventure" capability of a V-Strom, Tenere, Tiger 800xc, GS, etc. I fail to see what something like an ST1300 or FJR1300 could do for me that those can't, other than provide so much power it'd be too easy to lose my license and "look" a whole lot "sportier" doing so.

I think the sport tourers are simple the distance-capable bikes for people that have no interest in adventure bikes but don't want/can't afford an all out touring bike like a Goldwing.
__________________
Current Steeds: '08 FJR1300 | '02 DR650
Former Steeds: '99 DR650 | '02 DR650 | '09 DL650 | '07 B1250
9 states left to ride: WI, MN, ND, SD, UT, OK, KS, AK, and HI.
First Trip on 2 Wheels. 10,000 miles. 21 years old.
NC to Maine for Lobster Dinner
EvanADV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2013, 08:10 PM   #650
ken robert
Adventurer
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Location: redwoods/snowbird so-cal
Oddometer: 25
I think the sport tourers are simple the distance-capable bikes for people that have no interest in adventure bikes but don't want/can't afford an all out touring bike like a Goldwing

Really? I think you are way off man. I have had 2 KLRs, 3 GSs even a XL500 along with 32 other bikes. What do you think we traveled all over on before factory marketed Adv bikes. Once I and a bud did a GS ride at a BMW rally at John Day Or on our K12 LTs. I also had a 05 WeeStrom, nice road bike kinda like a small Gold Wing but not no Husky 610.
ken robert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2013, 09:35 PM   #651
EvanADV
Big Bearded Boy
 
EvanADV's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Location: Joplor, NC
Oddometer: 1,331
Quote:
Originally Posted by ken robert View Post
I think the sport tourers are simple the distance-capable bikes for people that have no interest in adventure bikes but don't want/can't afford an all out touring bike like a Goldwing

Really? I think you are way off man. I have had 2 KLRs, 3 GSs even a XL500 along with 32 other bikes. What do you think we traveled all over on before factory marketed Adv bikes. Once I and a bud did a GS ride at a BMW rally at John Day Or on our K12 LTs. I also had a 05 WeeStrom, nice road bike kinda like a small Gold Wing but not no Husky 610.
I fail to see your point, but nevertheless, I'm not referring to the past, I'm referring to the present. I don't know how things were in the motorcycle world prior to around 2009 when I got started, and I guess I probably still don't. It appears to me, currently, If you want to comfortably go long distances on two wheels you've got three options outside of cruiser-land: adventure bikes, sport tourers, and tourers.

Only reason I see for going sport tourer is if you intended to stick to pavement and/or don't want, can't afford, or can't handle a big tourer. Or, if you're like me when I got my Bandit, and don't know the ADV "world" even exists.

Someone made the point a while back that now that ADV bikes have the power to keep up with sport tourers (within reason), the need for sport tourers is diminishing for many. That's a reasonable way of making sense of things to me.
__________________
Current Steeds: '08 FJR1300 | '02 DR650
Former Steeds: '99 DR650 | '02 DR650 | '09 DL650 | '07 B1250
9 states left to ride: WI, MN, ND, SD, UT, OK, KS, AK, and HI.
First Trip on 2 Wheels. 10,000 miles. 21 years old.
NC to Maine for Lobster Dinner
EvanADV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2013, 06:40 AM   #652
motocopter
Studly Adventurer
 
motocopter's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Location: Freemont County, Colorado
Oddometer: 533
Thumb

I want one of every type and could make good use of them all!

By the way, I sold my 2005 Goldwing, and a week later bought my 2012 Concours 14. While I still have my 2K8Z1K hooligan bike, and my off-road WR-400F (since new in Feb 1999), I'm now looking to fit in a dual-sport.

I've considered trading the C14 for the Tiger Explorer, I won't because my C14 is a hoot to ride! I do plenty of site-seeing with it - on paved roads.

The dual-sport bike is looking to be the KTM 500 EXC or the Honda XR650L when the time comes.

Accumulating bikes is easy because the depreciation is too hard to take, and they last forever if taken care of reasonably.

Photo below was taken on the Dragon a few months before selling. This bike took me from TN to Mt. Rushmore, Red Lodge, MT, Beartooth Highway, Yellowstone NP, Tetons, Jackson, WY, CO, and back in 2011. Great trip!



Fixed logic doesn't always work for me.
__________________
- marc

2012 Concours 1400 | 2008 Z1000 | 1999 WR-400F
motocopter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2013, 07:26 AM   #653
joe a
awryder
 
joe a's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Location: Lake George NY
Oddometer: 589
Quote:
Originally Posted by EvanADV View Post
Someone made the point a while back that now that ADV bikes have the power to keep up with sport tourers (within reason), the need for sport tourers is diminishing for many. That's a reasonable way of making sense of things to me.

Reasonable way of making sense ???? Really ?
__________________
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The traveler in me is the most loved or most hated quality I possess, depending on who you ask.
joe a is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2013, 07:41 AM   #654
Royal Tiger
Pz VI B, Sd Kfz 182
 
Royal Tiger's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Location: Lehigh Valley, PA
Oddometer: 1,381
While a GS can keep up with a C14 in the twistes, depending on the rider, it's not as comfortable cross country. No one bike can do it all. Hence I have a sport tourer and a dual sport. I sold my aprilia sport bike and would like to get a S1000RR someday as I see three bikes as the most well rounded garage.

Motocopter, KTM 500EXC or Honda XR650L? Pretty far apart as far as dual sports go. It's like saying Honda Civic or BMW 5 series for my next car.
__________________
2013 Yamaha XT250 * 2012 Kawasaki Ninja 250 * 2007 BMW G650X XChallenge * 2005 BMW R1200ST * 2003 Yamaha PW80
Royal Tiger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2013, 08:11 AM   #655
Skowinski
Chordate
 
Skowinski's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Location: Mojave Desert
Oddometer: 4,698
That photo of the Gold Wing reminds me of a trip to the Laguna Seca MotoGP a couple of years ago. After the race weekend I was headed south on Hwy 1 along the coast, on the Hayabusa. I was in no hurry, just cruising along at a decent pace, when a small group of riders came up behind me. I moved to the right of the lane and motioned them by. One was on a Gold Wing. I followed them for about 10 minutes, they were moving along pretty fast, and the Gold Wind was right in there. I was really really surprised that one of those big bikes could be ridden that fast on such a bumpy, curvy road.
__________________

"Nature never hurries, yet everything is accomplished."
- Lao Tsu


In memory of Nika: http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=990697
Skowinski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2013, 08:23 AM   #656
Tom-Nor
Wannabe Adventurer
 
Tom-Nor's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Location: Norway west coast
Oddometer: 405
Quote:
Originally Posted by optimum_malarky View Post
Anyone use older powerhouse bikes like the zx11 or zx12r for sport-touring?
I havent tryed the ZX11 or 12, but i have a ZX14(ZZR1400) with tank-bag and hard side-bags. I go touring with it for 2-3 weeks around Europe. For me the ZX14 is a tru sportstouring
Tom-Nor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2013, 08:32 AM   #657
EvanADV
Big Bearded Boy
 
EvanADV's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Location: Joplor, NC
Oddometer: 1,331
Quote:
Originally Posted by joe a View Post
Reasonable way of making sense ???? Really ?
For me, yeah. That's the main reason I'm not interested in having a full sized adventure bike AND a sport tourer, and I think that's the direction a lot of others are headed, hence the low number of "sightings" of these bikes.
__________________
Current Steeds: '08 FJR1300 | '02 DR650
Former Steeds: '99 DR650 | '02 DR650 | '09 DL650 | '07 B1250
9 states left to ride: WI, MN, ND, SD, UT, OK, KS, AK, and HI.
First Trip on 2 Wheels. 10,000 miles. 21 years old.
NC to Maine for Lobster Dinner
EvanADV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2013, 08:48 AM   #658
Narsisco Lopez
Addlepated
 
Narsisco Lopez's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Location: Golden (Showers), Colorado
Oddometer: 2,213
My first sport tourer was a 2009 Triumph Sprint ST...



I bought it specifically for my very first long-distance road trip from Denver to the Grand Canyon in July of 2010. While a bit on the light side (got blown around a lot on I-40 in heavy semi traffic), it was a great bike and the triple engine had plenty of power and the riding ergos comfortable enough for long, multi-day rides. I'm no expert, but my overall opinion is that the Sprint's wheelbase is a bit short to use as a long-distance tourer.

And my current is a 2012 BMW K1300S...



I'm re-entering the sport touring world with this bike... just got it a few weeks ago, so haven't had the chance to do any over-nights on it, but am coming off of a KTM 990 Adventure which I did quite a few multi-day, long-distance rides on last season. I LOVE my KTM, but am selling it as my knee is going to prevent me from learning to ride it like it should be off-road, so am selling it so someone else with the skills to handle her off-road can have some fun... what a great bike!

I've ridden a couple true "Sport Tourers"... the Kawasaki Concours 14 and the Yamaha FJR1300. While both are great bikes, they just weren't for me: a bit too big. I wanted something with a more stripped down look and feel and the K13S just kept coming to the top as I researched.

So far, I really love this bike... the mix of technology and performance is amazing and the bike is super-comfortable (the PO added Helibars and Verholen rearsets which modify the ergos just enough that make it feel great for multiple hours in the saddle). I'm adding a small top box (probably reusing my Pelican) but am avoiding hard side cases... gonna travel with either my Giant Loop Great Basin and/or smaller dry bags... trying to travel more and more light each season.
__________________
FYYFF!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtpUv4VBDhA
Bikes: 2013 BMW K1600GT
A Few Past Bikes
: 2003 Suzuki DRZ400E | 2012 BMW K13S | 2009 KTM 990 Adventure
Narsisco Lopez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2013, 09:46 AM   #659
EvanADV
Big Bearded Boy
 
EvanADV's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Location: Joplor, NC
Oddometer: 1,331
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ogribike View Post
I don't see this at all. I like a sport tourer for what it does, I have no desire for a large bike like a wing.

As for afford a bigger bike, that's not it either, '70 Triumph Bonnie, '75 BMW R90/6, '82 HD FXWG, '86 BMW R80+20, '92 BMW R100GS, '01 Ducati ST4, '04 Triumph Thruxton, '06 Ducati Paul Smart, '08 BMW R1200GSA, '10 BMW S1000RR
So it appears you'd fall into the "don't want" category I referred to.

Just sharing my thoughts, not trying to step on any toes. I'd love one of every bike.
__________________
Current Steeds: '08 FJR1300 | '02 DR650
Former Steeds: '99 DR650 | '02 DR650 | '09 DL650 | '07 B1250
9 states left to ride: WI, MN, ND, SD, UT, OK, KS, AK, and HI.
First Trip on 2 Wheels. 10,000 miles. 21 years old.
NC to Maine for Lobster Dinner
EvanADV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2013, 09:59 AM   #660
joe a
awryder
 
joe a's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Location: Lake George NY
Oddometer: 589
Just keep in mind youngster that a large percentage of these wonderful "ADV" bikes that you mention and their riders NEVER go off road....so yes they should stick to the ST bikes and spare you the despair of finding the need to be so critical of what people chose to ride.....
__________________
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The traveler in me is the most loved or most hated quality I possess, depending on who you ask.
joe a is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 05:47 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014