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Old 02-03-2013, 12:04 AM   #28456
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AS Val Soviet Assault Rifle

This thing is badass. 9mm armor piercing rifled cartridge "zut allors"! Does NATO or the US have an equivalent stealth, close quarters rifle?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AS_Val

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Old 02-03-2013, 12:30 AM   #28457
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This thing is badass. 9mm armor piercing rifled cartridge "zut allors"! Does NATO or the US have an equivalent stealth, close quarters rifle?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AS_Val

http://world.guns.ru/assault/rus/as-val-e.html
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H&K MP5SD comes to mind. Also the De Lisle from WWII.
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Old 02-03-2013, 05:38 AM   #28458
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The I LOVE THIS GUN Thread

Sad news this AM: Chris Kyle was kiiled at a gun range in Texas. He was nicknamed "The Devil of Ramadi" by Iraqi insurgents as he eliminated 160 of their numbers, including one he killed at a distance of 1.2 miles. This SEAL was a true American hero.

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Old 02-03-2013, 06:32 AM   #28459
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Unreal, He was the one that decked that scumbag Ventura. They have someone in custody, and its Texas, so hopefully they will take care of the problem quickly.
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:30 AM   #28460
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Unreal, He was the one that decked that scumbag Ventura. They have someone in custody, and its Texas, so hopefully they will take care of the problem quickly.
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Yes, Gas Hog, he did knock the crap (hopefully) out of Jesse Ventura. I sure hated to see this great American cut down! Texas has the death penalty and they use it . . . swiftly.

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Old 02-03-2013, 08:49 AM   #28461
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Fellow showed up yesterday at the range I run with a couple of .22 pistols and ammo. He was excited to have found some .22 ammo for sale. The guy he bought it from wouldn't sell him more that 1,000 rds and this guy was thrilled to have gotten them for only $9.00/box of 50. ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!?? That's right, guy paid $9.00 per box of 50 for Winchester Wildcat .22 LR and bought 1,000rds. $25.00 worth of ammo for 180.00. It's been crazy now even crazier.
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I'm just talking expanded shifts and that sort of thing. Yeah...not feasible to have machinery made and expand facilities. Those companies are making money hand over fist right now since shop/msrp prices have jumped about 50% in the last couple of months. I doubt an AWB ban will pass but its crazy to think of how many jobs in the industry would be gone and how many companies would be out of business




I'm waiting for a huge influx of ammo to hit the market at some point from foreign manufacturers since they have to deal with shipping and that sort of thing. My local trip to pick up some ammo blew my mind.....I have never seen a market so out of whack.

.308 and .223/5.56 and 30-06/.270/.243/30-30 all at about a buck a round for mid-level stuff....there's no cheap stuff anywhere and a lot of whats available is reloads at those crazy prices

steel case 7.62x39 is over 50 cents per round now

Brick of .22 is $47 now and thats for ok stuff

50 rounds of crap range 9mm is $27

50 rounds of ok range .40 is $17

50 rounds of ok range .45 acp is $20



Intersitngly enough the 440 round surplus cans of 7.62x54 are only $110
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Old 02-03-2013, 02:09 PM   #28462
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What are the thoughts on these in 10mm:



Anyone own one?
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Old 02-03-2013, 02:27 PM   #28463
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Fellow showed up yesterday at the range I run with a couple of .22 pistols and ammo. He was excited to have found some .22 ammo for sale. The guy he bought it from wouldn't sell him more that 1,000 rds and this guy was thrilled to have gotten them for only $9.00/box of 50. ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!?? That's right, guy paid $9.00 per box of 50 for Winchester Wildcat .22 LR and bought 1,000rds. $25.00 worth of ammo for 180.00. It's been crazy now even crazier.
You can't touch .22 LR anywhere on my side of the Cascades. I was over in Yakima last weekend, though, and got a tip about an ACE Hardware in Sunnyside that had a pretty good stock - CCI LR HP, $7/brick of 100.

Yeah, I stocked up. Despite my objections to feeding the frenzy. Of course I'd just bought a 10/22 takedown at Cabela's a couple hours earlier.

Same ACE had a Shooter's Ridge 25rd mag and an extra Ruger 10rd rotary mag, where Cabela's had squat for accessories. Yeah, bought those too
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Old 02-03-2013, 02:33 PM   #28464
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Way to resist the hype

I think I bought Midway's last eight boxes of Armscor 9mm for like 23 cents a round a few weeks ago... it seemed outrageous at the time but I'm glad I did. btw the Armscor has worked flawlessly
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Old 02-03-2013, 02:40 PM   #28465
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I just got back from buying a Mosin Nagant for my son's birthday. He loves the old military stuff. I felt lucky to find it. Wasn't long ago you'd see racks of them for under $100 but apparently the importer supply has dried up recently. 7.62x54R is one of the few rounds readily available. I picked up a 440rd spam can - they had skids of them.

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Old 02-03-2013, 03:02 PM   #28466
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Sad news this AM: Chris Kyle was kiiled at a gun range in Texas. He was nicknamed "The Devil of Ramadi" by Iraqi insurgents as he eliminated 160 of their numbers, including one he killed at a distance of 1.2 miles. This SEAL was a true American hero.

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No disrespect here. I'm from Canada, so I've never heard of him. Do you mean to tell me somebody shot him at a gun range? On purpose? What's with some of these sick fucks? You guys don't need gun control, you need "ass hole" control! FUCK!
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Old 02-03-2013, 03:16 PM   #28467
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No disrespect here. I'm from Canada, so I've never heard of him. Do you mean to tell me somebody shot him at a gun range? On purpose? What's with some of these sick fucks? You guys don't need gun control, you need "ass hole" control! FUCK!
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Very sad situation. Chris and his buddy were out at the range near Glen Rose, TX and the killer was a guy that Chris had been trying to help out with his PTSD. I am guessing that the guy was so screwed up he hated anybody who loved the military and the uniform like Chris did. It apparently happened early before anybody else was around and it took two hours to find Chris and his bud shot dead. I admired Chris when I saw him on TV talking about smacking Ventura, who had barged into a team wake for another bud who had been killed in Afghanistan. He seemed like the best the military has to offer and lived it in style and grace.
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Old 02-03-2013, 03:25 PM   #28468
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I admired Chris when I saw him on TV talking about smacking Ventura, who had barged into a team wake for another bud who had been killed in Afghanistan...
With all due respect, there is a pending lawsuit over whether that really happened, and the facts as you've posted them are different than what I've read elsewhere. It's my understanding Ventura was in Coronado as a keynote speaker to a graduating class of SEAL, and that he happened to be at the same bar, not that he barged into a wake. The facts will continue to come out over the instance.

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Old 02-03-2013, 04:09 PM   #28469
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No disrespect here. I'm from Canada, so I've never heard of him. Do you mean to tell me somebody shot him at a gun range? On purpose? What's with some of these sick fucks? You guys don't need gun control, you need "ass hole" control! FUCK!
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No disrespect taken, Lyle, at least by me.

I was once a soldier. When I returned from my tour of duty, many in our country were not very friendly to Vietnam veterans. I went to college on the G.I. Bill (paid for about half of my education) and I took a fair amount of crap from my fellow students. Most were from the newly formed Young Democrats. The president of that group called me a baby killer not long after the Mi Lai incident came to light. ( I didn't serve in the Americal and never witnessed anything like that. My unit was very professional.) I was quite angry during those days and probably had a mild form of PTSD. One day, I saw my antagonist pulling into a parking place on campus. I ran over and beat the shit out of him as he tried to exit the vehicle. I still recall the rage I felt but I never even though about doing anything worse to him.

I think you're right, we need ass hole control.

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Old 02-03-2013, 04:17 PM   #28470
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here is another reactive target made from recycled stuff

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