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Old 02-03-2013, 01:36 PM   #16
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the cast wheels are not glass!

Often the problem with off road is that the riders let air out of the tires for better traction....so when you hit somthing hard the tire collapses and the rock/whatever hits the rim. If you keep the tire pressure up you have to hit something hard enough to collapses the tire...ie much less likely.

You will note in the picture above...the tire is also badly damaged...from that collapsing

If you ride in 1st gear it is unlikely you will damage your cast wheels...or your tires.

get out there and do it ....have fun

If you find you ride hard enough to damage your tires and wheel, you can always upgrade to after market wire wheel ...which are evan tougher than the BMW factory wire wheels.
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Old 02-03-2013, 02:19 PM   #17
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Go back and take a look at the roads in the pics above.
My three dinged rims have happened at speed on rough surfaces, they will do fine at slow speeds.

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Old 02-03-2013, 09:07 PM   #18
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.the tire is also badly damaged...from that collapsing

Well, it was still on the rim and got me home over 100 miles in temps above 90f so hey, it wasnt all that bad. LOL!
The wobble over 60 mph was a pain in the arse.
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Old 02-04-2013, 05:20 AM   #19
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I've got a 2008 650GS, which spends quite a bit of time on dirt - in company with a F800GS, Yamaha Tenere & a KTM 640. I would consider it the least 'dirt' capable of the lot, but it easily holds its own. I've put Ricor Intimators(sp?) in the front forks and I have also put a F800 rear shock on, just for some extra ground clearance. I run TKC80's on the front and a Pirelli Scorpion something on the rear.
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:50 AM   #20
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The problem with the cast wheels is that if you do screw them up, you have to buy a whole new wheel.
If you screw up a wire wheel, it can be fixed using the original hub. Much cheaper.
It was one of the reasons I bought a lowered 800 instead of the 700...
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:01 AM   #21
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Depends on how bad they are bent. There are several shops that repair cast motorcycle wheels within 80 miles of my residence.
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Old 02-08-2013, 06:32 PM   #22
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F650GS OffRoad

Hi, i live in Guatemala City, and i work in the sides of the city, and it is a daily adventure, there are 30 KM to work, and 6 Km in a offroad terrain with rocks, mud, people, dogs, cows, 125 cc motorcycles, drunks, kids running around and no problem at all, the only limitation i see is if i would be very agressive with my motorcycle and not stoping properly in bumps and stones, the suspension is not designed to be agressive, but can do the job, the only limitation is in my skill.
Also i think that F800GS is the best machine known to mankind, F650Gs for me is the perfect size of a F800GS for a beginner like me.
I learned offroad in the BMW course by a good techer (Jose Andres Pinto) and still allot to learn. In the course i was in the middle, the G650GS is very short but agile, twins are a Bull, and dinosaurs 1200, and felt in the best spot for a beginner, hope i help, and keep the tire selection is key, TK80 for me please.
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:19 PM   #23
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average experienced dirt rider will crack them with speed

my friend has cracked two sets of cast wheels. he rides them on a typical guy ride of fireroad/jeep roads in So. Calif. with dual sport riders. my impression is that an aggressive dirt bike rider will crack them and a casual cruiser rider will not.
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:46 PM   #24
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I've never seen one "cracked" but I have seen them bent and dented.
A crack would be catastrophic if it happened on the rim. And not the spoke.
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Old 09-24-2014, 07:50 PM   #25
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you can always upgrade to after market wire wheel
Where might I find these aftermarket wheels? I've found all kinds of aftermarket parts but no wheels.

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Old 09-25-2014, 04:59 PM   #26
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Where might I find these aftermarket wheels?
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Old 09-25-2014, 05:28 PM   #27
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just curious how the f700 gs is on dirt trails. any info would help, thinking about getting one but not sure how the cast rims on the f700gs will work on tough trails also the suspension.
As much as nobody wants to admit it, most bikes have way more capability than most riders have talent. It's likely the F700 will take you all the places the R1200gs go, all the places the F800gs go, all the places the KLRs go, all the places the DR650s go, and all the places the KTM990s go. I've followed them through all those places (and mine is factory lowered) in the last 65K miles. It will require more focus and you might need to take a different line, but capability is there. I've ridden it up this:





The bike has been remarkably resilient to some of my more rookie mistakes. She does take a lickin' well and always got me home. I do believe that any bike you buy, the OEM suspension will need some sort of upgrade. And my recommendation if you are going to upgrade the wheels and suspension, buy the cheaper F700 vs F800 since people fault both bikes for the same issues and spend the difference in price on the upgrades!

At the end of the day though, I prefer my F650X-country for an all rounder. It's lighter, has a shorter wheelbase and ergonomically fits me better.
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Old 09-26-2014, 08:55 AM   #28
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+1 on the above.

Here are a pair of old F650GS twins. Stock suspensions and no traction control etc... The F700GS looks like a better bike, though I'll never bother with buying another BMW. Though they can handle a lot more than most people think, you can end up with some problems. The rear wheel looked like the front did. The cast wheels will take a lot before they will crack. I rode that home but above 60mph on the highway there was quite a wobble.

Worry less, ride more.

That's the dirt, rock, sand road above 13,000ft on the Cofre de Perote, got stuck on the next corner. Tourance tires. It's been above 14,500 on sand and gravel, too. Two of the highest roads here in Mexico and the bike was fine except for overheating above 14,000ft once. No problem, switched off the motor, coasted down a few hundred feet and all was good. The new bike with traction control would perhaps make things easier.



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