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Old 02-08-2013, 07:31 PM   #5116
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So, I have always ridden Japanese motorcycles, do BMW dealers negotiate on price?
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:40 PM   #5117
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So, I have always ridden Japanese motorcycles, do BMW dealers negotiate on price?
I have never owned a BMW but I would doubt it, especially on a brand new model.
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:03 PM   #5118
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Those prices are higher from what I know. Your prices are MSRP + Dealer profit.
By "Dealer profit," do you mean additional markup, or what?
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:24 PM   #5119
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Those prices are higher from what I know. Your prices are MSRP + Dealer profit.
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By "Dealer profit," do you mean additional markup, or what?
Shorty Long explained the price difference. You can ignore my comment above saying "Dealer profit". The difference was of $495, which he explained correctly as being the destination charge.
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:31 PM   #5120
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So, I have always ridden Japanese motorcycles, do BMW dealers negotiate on price?
Well it depends on what you are buying and when. When I bought my bike, a non-GS but BMW bike, dealer did give me a very attractive price. I did not pay the MSRP.

However for this Water Cooled, dealers have a wait list, and it is beginning of the year, I highly doubt that they will give you any deals. They may throw in a small priced item, or they may say we are giving you very attractive price on a trade-in, if it applies to you, and not budge further.
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:33 PM   #5121
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So, I have always ridden Japanese motorcycles, do BMW dealers negotiate on price?
they do, they will, and sometimes they won't. it really does depend on the bike, dealership, time of year, factory to dealer money, special circumstances, locale, and customer him/herself. on the five BMW bikes I've bought new i received between $250-$2,500 off the bikes msrp price. i highly doubt that they'll be discounting the new GS bike much (if at all) in the early goings.
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:00 PM   #5122
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whats the fuel tank capacity?
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:25 PM   #5123
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"Model year" is an arbitrary thing of the New World, I don't understand why it even exists.
It exists because it is a convenient way to group together bikes of a common spec so that when I say I have a 2010 R1200GS, people know what the bike is. It would be pretty chaotic otherwise. Mfgs do occasionally make mid-model-year running production changes, but they are rare. Mfgs also like to group changes together by model year to avoid confusion.

If you want a mfg that makes random changes to their bike's spec willy-nilly without respect to model years, then KTM is your brand. And it makes dealing with the brand for sales, service, and support much more difficult.

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Old 02-08-2013, 10:52 PM   #5124
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whats the fuel tank capacity?
I've seen both 20L and 24L listed in various specs.

I suspect it is a 20L tank and the low fuel light will come on when the tank has about 4L left. That's about what the current GS has.
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It's definitely 20L, 4L of these 20 are reserve. Same as the old one.
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Old 02-08-2013, 10:59 PM   #5126
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Indeed. A european full option including some accesories goes for around 25000 dollars
Norway:
- Heated grips
- Cruise control
- ESA
- ASC
- LED Lights
- Pro computer
- Hand guards + crash bars
- Chrome exhaus
- Set of vario boxes

Bargained a discount of just over 1000$.
Total price: 48044.5 $

Yhhh...
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:18 PM   #5127
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Norway:
- Heated grips
- Cruise control
- ESA
- ASC
- LED Lights
- Pro computer
- Hand guards + crash bars
- Chrome exhaus
- Set of vario boxes

Bargained a discount of just over 1000$.
Total price: 48044.5 $

Yhhh...
What ... That's more than twice in US. My configuration had a subtotal of $19,300 before other necessary taxes and fees.
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:30 PM   #5128
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It's just a political choice of society.
For example, I know that Denmark charges also cars & bike with a hughe amount of taxes but all social services (hospital, school etc) are almost for free.
Comparing prices (tax included) by countries has not a lot of meaning.
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:39 PM   #5129
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It's just a political choice of society.
For example, I know that Denmark charges also cars & bike with a hughe amount of taxes but all social services (hospital, school etc) are almost for free.
Comparing prices (tax included) by countries has not a lot of meaning.
Yup. This price includes 18000$ of tax for buying a new vehicle. If I wanted to buy abroad then I would have to pay around 100% import tax. Either way the goverment will f.... you over ;)
Oh, and don't get me started on fuel prices of 10.3$ per US gallon. You muricans have it easy ;)

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Old 02-09-2013, 12:10 AM   #5130
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Yup. This price includes 18000$ of tax for buying a new vehicle. If I wanted to buy abroad then I would have to pay around 100% import tax. Either way the goverment will f.... you over ;)
Oh, and don't get me started on fuel prices of 10.3$ per US gallon. You muricans have it easy ;)
It would be interesting to know how salaries compare in these countries. Whats the average salary for say a teacher, doctor and office worker in the US, and Denmark?
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