Sport Tourers; Where Art Thou? - Page 46

Narsisco Lopez · 02-08-2013, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sleazy rider

You have no idea how some of us ride our bikes.

. I could do what you describe on a Wing, my old BMW GS or my sportbike with luggage.

Hear, hear

The amount of fundamentalist dogma being tossed around in this thread is a bit disappointing considering the forum we're in.

My riding buddy and I were crossing I-80 from Salt Lake City to Truckee a couple of years ago and, on that long, hot day in August, a young lady on a Bergman scooter pretty much kept pace with us till she exited at Reno. If you've got the itch to ride long miles, you can pretty much do it on anything.

rocker59 · 02-08-2013, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Qaz

To me, the Honda ST1100 and ST1300 capture the spirit perfectly. Sorry boys, just because you call it a S/T bike does make it one.

Back at ya, amigo.

Those are fat-assed touring bikes by my definition of S/T !!!

rocker59 · 02-08-2013, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by motocopter

I still like the look of the 80's BMWs and Moto Guzzis but, owning one now isn't really appealing. The technological progression to where were are now is awesome - 6-speed transmissions, huge front discs for braking, non-jacking shaft drives, switchable eco mode fueling, etc.

Guzzis are easy to own. I plan on adding Hepco + Becker racks to this one this year. 1991 LeMans 1000 CI.

Yes... Carbs, stiff throttle, 5-speeds, 280mm brakes, 35mpg.

Yet, sublime nonetheless...

motocopter · 02-08-2013, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rocker59

Guzzis are easy to own. I plan on adding Hepco + Becker racks to this one this year. 1991 LeMans 1000 CI.

Yes... Carbs, stiff throttle, 5-speeds, 280mm brakes, 35mpg.

Yet, sublime nonetheless...

I really like how the valves are right there if/when they need adjustments! I've got a framed poster of a red LeMans in the garage!

Qaz · 02-08-2013, 07:30 PM

Go ride a Moto Guzzi or a BMW twin and then hop on a inline-4 or 6, if you still don't understand what busy is then you won't understand. For those that think their GS, standard or GSXR with soft luggage is a S/T bike, let me explain it this way. If you show up at a sports car ralley in a jacked up Nova and you call it your sports car, does not make it one!
From the coments about my post, I feel that I have proven my point. The definition of a S/T bike has been blurred by the public, but the manufacturers still know the recipet and they all build the same type of bike, after all they created that segment of the market.

Rocker- I love the LeMans series of bikes and your looks like a fine example, lucky man!! I have also always been fond of the SP series.

kdscoates · 02-08-2013, 08:53 PM

DOGSROOT · 02-08-2013, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Qaz

Go ride a Moto Guzzi or a BMW twin...The definition of a S/T bike has been blurred by the public, but the manufacturers still know the recipet and they all build the same type of bike, after all they created that segment of the market.

OK.

BMW and Moto Guzzi's GT bikes don't qualify?

Neither does Ducati's ST?

How odd...

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Originally Posted by Ogribike

I guess this doesn't qualify then, Ducati ST4...

LoneTraveler · 02-08-2013, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Qaz

Go ride a Moto Guzzi or a BMW twin and then hop on a inline-4 or 6, if you still don't understand what busy is then you won't understand. For those that think their GS, standard or GSXR with soft luggage is a S/T bike, let me explain it this way. If you show up at a sports car ralley in a jacked up Nova and you call it your sports car, does not make it one!
From the coments about my post, I feel that I have proven my point. The definition of a S/T bike has been blurred by the public, but the manufacturers still know the recipet and they all build the same type of bike, after all they created that segment of the market.

Rocker- I love the LeMans series of bikes and your looks like a fine example, lucky man!! I have also always been fond of the SP series.

Peter Brock took a Holden Torana and proved that you can win without your car being a 'sports car.'

But yes, you do have a point: a Ninja 300 is not a sport-tourer. Nor is that new CB500, even though they're offering hard luggage to go with it.

As for the remark about going at least x distance without stopping, hey, some of us gotta pee, ya know!

YJake · 02-09-2013, 01:04 AM

So my Bandit 1200N isn't Sporty or Toury enough?

-Jake

Narsisco Lopez · 02-09-2013, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Qaz

Go ride a Moto Guzzi or a BMW twin and then hop on a inline-4 or 6, if you still don't understand what busy is then you won't understand. For those that think their GS, standard or GSXR with soft luggage is a S/T bike, let me explain it this way. If you show up at a sports car ralley in a jacked up Nova and you call it your sports car, does not make it one!
From the coments about my post, I feel that I have proven my point. The definition of a S/T bike has been blurred by the public, but the manufacturers still know the recipet and they all build the same type of bike, after all they created that segment of the market.

I'm outta here. Have at it.

Bugz · 02-09-2013, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Qaz

Go ride a Moto Guzzi or a BMW twin and then hop on a inline-4 or 6, if you still don't understand what busy is then you won't understand. For those that think their GS, standard or GSXR with soft luggage is a S/T bike, let me explain it this way. If you show up at a sports car ralley in a jacked up Nova and you call it your sports car, does not make it one!
From the coments about my post, I feel that I have proven my point. The definition of a S/T bike has been blurred by the public, but the manufacturers still know the recipet and they all build the same type of bike, after all they created that segment of the market.

Rocker- I love the LeMans series of bikes and your looks like a fine example, lucky man!! I have also always been fond of the SP series.

I don't think a sport touring bike is defined anywhere.

As for your references of sport touring and ST1100's and ST1300's is plain hilarious in the view of most europeans. Those are pretty much the most heavy touring mile munchers here (Yes, the goldwing is sold in Europe though it isn't populair). If you ask for a ST bike here you get BMW 800ST's, VFR 800, BMW R1200S, VFR 1200 kinda bikes.

RoadShow · 02-09-2013, 08:29 AM

So maybe the takeaway here is that sport touring is like obscenity. You can't define it, but you know it when you see it.

motocopter · 02-09-2013, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Narsisco Lopez

I'm outta here. Have at it.

That's how I feel. Just want to ride.

Was only able to get-in 271 miles today in the middle TN area. I-40 stop big time. Ended up off-roading the 700lb C14 to get out of there.

There is always next weekend!

DOGSROOT · 02-10-2013, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by RoadShow

So maybe the takeaway here is that sport touring is like obscenity. You can't define it, but you know it when you see it.

Bloody Brilliant!!

Way to get the road on the show.

BTW...

Welcome to the assylum.

Don't forget to bring a beer w/ that sammie...
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JakeS · 02-10-2013, 07:23 AM

All of those Ducati ST's up there make me want to try one out..

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02-08-2013, 07:30 PM	#680
Qaz Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Mar 2012 Oddometer: 113	Go ride a Moto Guzzi or a BMW twin and then hop on a inline-4 or 6, if you still don't understand what busy is then you won't understand. For those that think their GS, standard or GSXR with soft luggage is a S/T bike, let me explain it this way. If you show up at a sports car ralley in a jacked up Nova and you call it your sports car, does not make it one! From the coments about my post, I feel that I have proven my point. The definition of a S/T bike has been blurred by the public, but the manufacturers still know the recipet and they all build the same type of bike, after all they created that segment of the market. Rocker- I love the LeMans series of bikes and your looks like a fine example, lucky man!! I have also always been fond of the SP series.

02-09-2013, 08:29 AM	#687
RoadShow n00b Joined: Sep 2008 Location: Edwardsville, Illinois (near St. Louis) Oddometer: 3	So maybe the takeaway here is that sport touring is like obscenity. You can't define it, but you know it when you see it.