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Old 02-07-2013, 01:18 PM   #4006
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who says you can't have both?
I'm a longtime sportbike rider who is picky about tires. The K60's on the Stelvio just plain work. Complete confidence in hoisting that thing way over.
and my front is still looking good at 11,500 miles.
Rear replaced at a little over 10,000 miles

About to fit my third pair of K60s to a Caponord (so also a big, heavy 100hp Italian, but chain drive); first set did 14,000km, second will get about 13,000. Both pairs did a high-temp 3000km road-trip with full luggage. Grip is great on-road and on gravel roads but they need high-ish pressures on road and do better with less on dirt. No surprise there.
In contrast, Tourances lasted a poor 5000km and the front wore faster than the rear: great on the street, poor on gravel and diabolical in sand, plain dangerous in mud.
Only one downside to K60s: they can be noisy on some surfaces, especially concrete roadways: they 'sing'.
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:19 AM   #4007
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Easy enough to tell. Just take a peep and see which one looks like it was attacked by a belt sander.

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Old 02-08-2013, 10:07 AM   #4008
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It's the side stand
One thing you may want to check is that your side stand return spring is doing its job and pulling the stand up tight to the frame. I'm not a racer but I've not scraped anything on this bike yet, and I've ridden it in a "spirited" manner on a number of occasions. My preload in the rear is cranked up pretty high though, so maybe that's keeping the hard parts from touching down.

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Old 02-08-2013, 11:12 AM   #4009
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One thing you may want to check is that your side stand return spring is doing its job and pulling the stand up tight to the frame. I'm not a racer but I've not scraped anything on this bike yet, and I've ridden it in a "spirited" manner on a number of occasions. My preload in the rear is cranked up pretty high though, so maybe that's keeping the hard parts from touching down.

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My side stand is tucked right up under the foot peg when folded. It's also got a double curve in it that allows it to jut out so that the foot piece is almost out away from the bike as far as the end of the foot peg. There really aren't any clearance issues between the frame, etc and the side stand that require that much of a dog leg.

I haven't measured my sag yet, it doesn't feel like there's much suspension compression when I sit on it but that can be deceptive.
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Old 02-08-2013, 12:21 PM   #4010
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How much sag?

I haven't measured my sag yet, it doesn't feel like there's much suspension compression when I sit on it but that can be deceptive.[/QUOTE]


Taking a break from the work to peruse this thread. can someone tell me how much sag there should be and how then to adjust the rebound accordingly. Last year about this time, when my bike was in for warranty work my mechanic told me how he could set up the rear suspension for the weight you where carrying, but I really recall how much sag, and rebound needed. Should have listened and taken notes. Thanks.

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Old 02-08-2013, 12:35 PM   #4011
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I haven't measured my sag yet, it doesn't feel like there's much suspension compression when I sit on it but that can be deceptive.


Taking a break from the work to peruse this thread. can someone tell me how much sag there should be and how then to adjust the rebound accordingly. Last year about this time, when my bike was in for warranty work my mechanic told me how he could set up the rear suspension for the weight you where carrying, but I really recall how much sag, and rebound needed. Should have listened and taken notes. Thanks.

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Sag is set by preload. Comp/rebound damping is another animal all together.

"How much sag" is likely going to be a hot topic, but I've always gone with a number between 10-20% of the total amount of travel. The Stelvio rear shock has about 6" of travel, so that would be about 1/2" to 1" of sag, which should be measured with you and all the crap on it that you typically carry. Empty the boxes, measure, then put your usual amount of junk in them, sit on the seat w/ feet on the pegs, and measure again. Note that you'll need a helper to keep the bike upright as you sit on it to get an accurate measurement. Based on the numbers above, > 1" means you need to crank up the preload.

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Old 02-08-2013, 01:26 PM   #4012
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To expand on the sag issue, it will help to put a bit of tape on a part of the frame directly above a similar bit of tape on the CARC. Draw a horizontal line on each bit of tape. This gives you a very accurate reference line for both the moving and stationary marks. Then use a metric tape measure because the graduations are usually easier to read and digest. I use a wheel chock to hold the bike upright but still need an assistant to read the tape. Remember to bounce the rear a couple times so it comes to a 'natural' stopping point...then measure.

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Old 02-09-2013, 10:28 PM   #4013
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Ordered a pair of the big 40L cases from Caribou to replace the stock Trax cases that I trashed (at half the price). The Caribou cases should mount right up to the stock SW-Motec rack.

Fingers crossed...
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Old 02-10-2013, 06:27 AM   #4014
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Cal Sci windshield

I am thinking about a new windscreen for my NTX, I seem to remember a discussion a while back about a Cal-Sci? I would like to get something to get rid of the buffeting and noise at highway speeds...I can't even keep my visor open.

As I write this the current outside temperature is 5 degrees
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Old 02-10-2013, 06:33 AM   #4015
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I dont think the CalSci thing is working. I and many others just fitted a Laminar Lip (LL).

I use the same LL that fits a BMW 1200GS. I heated it with a heat gun and starightened out its curve a little.

Only problem that Ive had with the LL is that when I forget to remove it and take it on severe stuff, its has bounced off the hook-loop attachments.

I have the parts now to attach it with a removeable plastic bolt/spacer set up. Use a Dremel stone to bore your hole, not a drill bit. (Learned that from Maestro Gustafsson).

Pyoung and I are going to be doing some severe rock riding and I dont want it to come loose again.
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Old 02-10-2013, 06:40 AM   #4016
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I dont think the CalSci thing is working. I and many others just fitted a Laminar Lip (LL).

I use the same LL that fits a BMW 1200GS. I heated it with a heat gun and starightened out its curve a little.

Only problem that Ive had with the LL is that when I forget to remove it and take it on severe stuff, its has bounced off the hook-loop attachments.

I have the parts now to attach it with a removeable plastic bolt/spacer set up. Use a Dremel stone to bore your hole, not a drill bit. (Learned that from Maestro Gustafsson).

Pyoung and I are going to be doing some severe rock riding and I dont want it to come loose again.
I need to find some solution, I like riding with my visor up occasionally for some fresh air...maybe I should try an open face helmet in warmer weather.
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Old 02-10-2013, 09:18 AM   #4017
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I and many others just fitted a Laminar Lip (LL)..........

Pyoung and I are going to be doing some severe rock riding and I dont want it to come loose again.
Leafman, I'm trying a varialbe lip from MRA, called the X-creen. I just put in on the bike recently and have not tried it on the road. Looks very promising.

Oh, and what's this talk about doing some severe rock riding? You used up all my nine lives that last time I followed you off road!

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Old 02-10-2013, 09:21 AM   #4018
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Leafman, I'm trying a varialbe lip from MRA, called the X-creen. I just put in on the bike recently and have not tried it on the road. Looks very promising.

Oh, and what's this talk about doing some severe rock riding? You used up all my nine lives that last time I followed you off road!

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Old 02-10-2013, 09:46 AM   #4019
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Leafman, I'm trying a varialbe lip from MRA, called the X-creen. I just put in on the bike recently and have not tried it on the road. Looks very promising.

Oh, and what's this talk about doing some severe rock riding? You used up all my nine lives that last time I followed you off road!

Peter Y.
+1 on the Xcreen. I LOVE mine. I've had it on for a little over a week now and it's terrific. I have the clamp-on option which adds a lot of weight at the top of the screen so it does get wobbly over rough terrain when the "wing" is fully up, but otherwise it has made a big difference for me. I love the fact that it can go from adding about 2" to the top of my screen (which when fully up I can still see over both) to "barn door mode" and add about 6" to the overall height of my stock screen and provides me with a bubble of quiet and calm. When fully up I can ride on the freeway with my visor up with no problem up to about 80mph, then other sources of wind start creeping in from around the sides of the main screen. It's also adjustable with the flick of a few tabs, no tools needed. When I get brave I'll probably drill my screen and permanently mount my Xcreen, but for now I'm leaving it clamped in place.

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Old 02-10-2013, 10:13 AM   #4020
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+1 on the Xcreen. I LOVE mine. I've had it on for a little over a week now and it's terrific. I have the clamp-on option which adds a lot of weight at the top of the screen so it does get wobbly over rough terrain when the "wing" is fully up, but otherwise it has made a big difference for me. I love the fact that it can go from adding about 2" to the top of my screen (which when fully up I can still see over both) to "barn door mode" and add about 6" to the overall height of my stock screen and provides me with a bubble of quiet and calm. When fully up I can ride on the freeway with my visor up with no problem up to about 80mph, then other sources of wind start creeping in from around the sides of the main screen. It's also adjustable with the flick of a few tabs, no tools needed. When I get brave I'll probably drill my screen and permanently mount my Xcreen, but for now I'm leaving it clamped in place.

-SM
SM, I was just looking at the MRA wing on Twisted Throttle. Would you recommend the permanent bolt on option? Where did you get yours?
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