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Old 02-12-2013, 09:23 AM   #73711
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i emailed acerbis about side panels for the dr650:

hi!

when are you going to carry plastics for the dr650? you could sell a lot. especially side panels! ;~) suzuki has made the same model since 1996 - you would only need one set of molds... :>)

thanks,

doug s.


here's the answer i got:

Hello,

We do not get requests for plastics for that bike. We would have to have about 1500 request in order to start the project on making plastics for that bike. I can mention it to the higher ups but you are the only request I have had for a while sorry.

Thanks,
Brian


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I'm guessing most DR owners just aren't very hard on the bikes and don't tear up the plastic. Thank God for duct tape.
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Old 02-12-2013, 10:33 AM   #73712
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I think I payed about 40 bucks shipped for each of my xrl sidecovers with a forum member discount from another forum. Even without the discount they weren't much more. I wonder why suzuki charges so much for the DR parts?....prolly the same reason they charge so much for the busa parts.....because its a suzuki ........I'm very careful with my busa
My Kawi's always seemed fairly cheap considering as well.....
You've got this wrong. Suzuki OEM parts are generally close to what the other Japanese Big Four charge for genuine OEM parts. THEY ALL ARE EXPENSIVE ... and KTM are even higher. Ever price a stock Mahle piston for a KTM?

My guess is your XR-L side panels are after market. Right?

Thing is ... the aftermarket plastic companies typically pick the most popular and newer bikes. Mostly race motocross bikes are provided for.

ALL the Suzuki RM and RMZ series are covered by companies like Acerbis, Maier and others. The DR650 never made the Cut. Shame. Moto Cross guys fall down all the time ... they scuff up body work then buy all new plastic before selling the bike off and buying next year model. On and on.

But anybody looking around the market will see that NOW the DR650 is a hugely popular bike. More and more suppliers are jumping in and making Parts to fit the DR650.

Thing is ... plastic body work will never be a big seller on the DR as most guys don't do serious off road and don't crash much.
NO PROFIT = NO PARTS.

Pro Cycle saw this popularity coming ... and gathered together all the companies that provide DR650 support. (a major effort I would think) So now we've got ONE STOP shopping. Will be interesting to see if someone steps up in future with aftermarket plastic for the DR ... we've only waited 16 years!
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Old 02-12-2013, 10:38 AM   #73713
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The chain will be tightest when the three pivots line up in a straight line

The countershaft, the swingarm shaft and the rear axle. If you can compress your suspension to that point and verify there is still a bit of slack you'll know you have it right. Then release the suspension and see what it needs to be when the suspension is unloaded and make a mental note or take measurements


1 First of all, the chain must be placed at its maximum tension condition. This condition will occur whenever the engine and wheel sprockets are at the maximum distance from each other.

To obtain this, it is generally necessary to load the back wheel (for example placing a person on the motorcycle) until the centers of the engine sprocket, the swingarm pivot and the rear wheel axle have been positioned on the same axis. The swinging arm will be parallel to the ground.

http://www.reginachain.it/eng/use_an...how_to05.shtml
Excellent! Should be in DR650 Top Ten Tips!
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Old 02-12-2013, 10:57 AM   #73714
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You've got this wrong. Suzuki OEM parts are generally close to what the other Japanese Big Four charge for genuine OEM parts. THEY ALL ARE EXPENSIVE ... and KTM are even higher. Ever price a stock Mahle piston for a KTM?

My guess is your XR-L side panels are after market. Right?

Thing is ... the aftermarket plastic companies typically pick the most popular and newer bikes. Mostly race motocross bikes are provided for.

ALL the Suzuki RM and RMZ series are covered by companies like Acerbis, Maier and others. The DR650 never made the Cut. Shame. Moto Cross guys fall down all the time ... they scuff up body work then buy all new plastic before selling the bike off and buying next year model. On and on.

But anybody looking around the market will see that NOW the DR650 is a hugely popular bike. More and more suppliers are jumping in and making Parts to fit the DR650.

Thing is ... plastic body work will never be a big seller on the DR as most guys don't do serious off road and don't crash much.
NO PROFIT = NO PARTS.

Pro Cycle saw this popularity coming ... and gathered together all the companies that provide DR650 support. (a major effort I would think) So now we've got ONE STOP shopping. Will be interesting to see if someone steps up in future with aftermarket plastic for the DR ... we've only waited 16 years!
Nope, 1st off as far as plastic goes, the big 4 are all over in pricing, they are by NO means close to each other. Honda usually charges twice what Yamaha does for sportbike plastic. Suzuki and Kawi are usually in the middle but usually much higher then Yamaha, closer to what Honda rapes you for.

As far as DS's go, OEM side covers for a Yamaha WR 250R are only $17 from Servie Honda, thats close to a 1/4 of what Honda and Suzuki charge for XR and DR covers. So not even CLOSE to the same pricing for basically the same thing.

As far as KTM costing more, that's pure bull shit, I showed you the pricing difference between the DR and 690 for top end parts and the fact that the KTM parts were cheaper, but by all means keep MSU.
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:06 AM   #73715
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Pro Cycle saw this popularity coming ...
Actually, ProCycle made it happen...
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:14 AM   #73716
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Excellent! Should be in DR650 Top Ten Tips!
Geesh, and I though my tip about writing my phone # on the inside of my side plates was the bomb.
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:22 AM   #73717
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Nope, 1st off as far as plastic goes, the big 4 are all over in pricing, they are by NO means close to each other. Honda usually charges twice what Yamaha does for sportbike plastic. Suzuki and Kawi are usually in the middle but usually much higher then Yamaha, closer to what Honda rapes you for.
From my recollection this changes year to year, model to model.

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As far as DS's go, OEM side covers for a Yamaha WR 250R are only $17 from Servie Honda, thats close to a 1/4 of what Honda and Suzuki charge for XR and DR covers. So not even CLOSE to the same pricing for basically the same thing.
You're right on the cheap Yam side covers. But in my experience that is a bit unusual.

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As far as KTM costing more, that's pure bull shit, I showed you the pricing difference between the DR and 690 for top end parts and the fact that the KTM parts were cheaper, but by all means keep MSU.
Here is KTM vs. Suzuki Piston. Should we keep comparing prices on other parts?

http://www.suzukipartshouse.com/oemp...9cf/crankshaft

DR650 Piston kit: $113 (piston, pin, rings, clip)
KTM 690 piston kit: $328 (list) (piston, pin, rings, clip)
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:36 AM   #73718
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From my recollection this changes year to year, model to model.

You're right on the cheap Yam side covers. But in my experience that is a bit unusual.



Here is KTM vs. Suzuki Piston. Should we keep comparing prices on other parts?

http://www.suzukipartshouse.com/oemp...9cf/crankshaft

DR650 Piston kit: $113 (piston, pin, rings, clip)
KTM 690 piston kit: $328 (list) (piston, pin, rings, clip)
LOL, sure show the discounted price for one compared to list pricing. I paid $200 for my piston kit. You can look back at the post where I showed you the valve train was almost $100 cheaper then the DR's also, so sure we can keep going. How many times do I have to show you for the Kool-Aid drinker you are?
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:37 AM   #73719
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what's the point?

arguing about it isn't going to make the parts any cheaper for us.



Thanks Procycle for the manual cam chain tensioner. Fixed the noise I was getting after installing the high compression piston.
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:47 AM   #73720
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Thanks Procycle for the manual cam chain tensioner. Fixed the noise I was getting after installing the high compression piston.
Sweet!
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:25 PM   #73721
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Recently picked up a pair of Manracks trailer tie-down clamp loops for my DR.
My handlebars are packed with stuff so it's always a challenge to strap down while the bike is up on the trailer and i'm holding on to it.

These bolt to the lower triple clamp and make things much easier.

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Old 02-12-2013, 01:29 PM   #73722
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Manracks tie down loops

Seems to me that they might work better attached "up side down" to the way shown in the picture.

I think strap tension and normal vibration while trailering would create forces acting to create in a "scizzors-like" rotation.

By flipping them the forces would be more "in line" .

Probably a non-issue. Just thinking...
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Old 02-12-2013, 02:23 PM   #73723
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Seems to me that they might work better attached "up side down" to the way shown in the picture.

I think strap tension and normal vibration while trailering would create forces acting to create in a "scizzors-like" rotation.

By flipping them the forces would be more "in line" .

Probably a non-issue. Just thinking...
This is true from a physics standpoint, but if he flipped them it may cut the rubber tubing and let dirt in there. Just thinking also.
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Old 02-12-2013, 02:37 PM   #73724
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Seems to me that they might work better attached "up side down" to the way shown in the picture.

I think strap tension and normal vibration while trailering would create forces acting to create in a "scizzors-like" rotation.

By flipping them the forces would be more "in line" .

Probably a non-issue. Just thinking...
not sure about that but any forward or backward load could cause them to fold over.

I'm loving the idea though.
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Old 02-12-2013, 05:42 PM   #73725
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Geesh, and I though my tip about writing my phone # on the inside of my side plates was the bomb.
I like it, if I am ride where you ride, I can get free plastic, and then mock the guy with his number on the panels.
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