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Old 02-12-2013, 06:25 PM   #331
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Once I get my 500x I will give you a report. Whenever it is released, that is.. haha
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:57 PM   #332
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With my riding style I have been able to nurse 50+ MPG out of a Burgman 650, V-Strom 650, DR650 GSX650F and even an FJR1300 on long stretches of slab. Not so with the Versys. The best I have done is 47 and most of the time it's in the 42-45 range. The bike is super comfy with the bar risers and the Seat Concept seat. I added an adjustable MRA screen that takes care of buffeting in most conditions. Overall, I am very happy with the bike.
I had a ninja 650, most times i got between 42 and 44, iirc, maybe a tank or two at 46 in 10k miles. Frankly, I thought the fuel economy sucked!

My current Honda Hawk gt 650 gets 52 mpg, and i am not nursing it it has a 3.2 gallon tank, so theoretically I could go 140 to 150 on a tank, maybe better if i went easier. I have gotten as high as 55.
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:06 PM   #333
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Once I get my 500x I will give you a report. Whenever it is released, that is.. haha
if they ever decide a price
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Old 02-13-2013, 05:05 AM   #334
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I had a ninja 650, most times i got between 42 and 44, iirc, maybe a tank or two at 46 in 10k miles. Frankly, I thought the fuel economy sucked!

My current Honda Hawk gt 650 gets 52 mpg, and i am not nursing it it has a 3.2 gallon tank, so theoretically I could go 140 to 150 on a tank, maybe better if i went easier. I have gotten as high as 55.
If this bike gets real world 60 plus MPG, I'll be delighted. That's a safe range of 240 with a half gallon/30 miles in reserve.
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Old 02-13-2013, 05:27 AM   #335
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since we're talking MPG, i average 54 with my 03 SV650 naked on my daily commute. in the 60's if i'm taking windy back roads.
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:09 AM   #336
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how does your mileage go up on fun roads? do you hold your man-purse with your throttle hand?

I've been using fuelly for a while, and while my FZ6 is perfectly capable of lumbering along and getting 56mpg, that drops to the high forties for high-speed interstate work and the low forties on 'windy back roads'.
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:16 AM   #337
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how does your mileage go up on fun roads? do you hold your man-purse with your throttle hand?

I've been using fuelly for a while, and while my FZ6 is perfectly capable of lumbering along and getting 56mpg, that drops to the high forties for high-speed interstate work and the low forties on 'windy back roads'.
The best mileage I ever got on my FZ1 was on twisty roads in Arkansas loaded up with top box and Givi saddlebags. I was on the throttle/off the throttle/on the throttle continuously. Got just a tick under 50 mpg on that tank. Normal easy riding usually netted 44-45 mpg and having fun in the twisties usually got me 42-43. Don't know why it happened. Planets aligned?!

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Old 02-13-2013, 07:08 AM   #338
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Man purse? nah. i'm usually out with my dad and he is on his W650.. on my daily commute it's 75-80mph for about 45 minutes solid. then some stop and go..

fuelly? yeah. i'm on there!

http://www.fuelly.com/driver/joeyz/sv650

edit: mind you i've only been riding for about 8 months or so as well.
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Old 02-13-2013, 07:19 AM   #339
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they make supports for the f which is the same as the r, so yes they do have them. the hard bags also have a color matched insert panel in the black and white, not sure about the red. go to honda site and pull up the f and click accessories.
If the CBR500R will take the bags, that could likely be the clincher for me. If Givi comes up with a mount for V35's, it's a done deal. And the color panel is a separate accessory for the Honda bags. With the NC700X coming to the US in red for 2013, I imagine that panel would be available in what I hope would be the same red. If not, black saddlebags would be fine enough for me.
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Old 02-13-2013, 05:09 PM   #340
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You guys are funny.


The bike you want so badly is already available used.


It's called a Ninja 500......

And it has a 5 gallon tank....
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Old 02-14-2013, 02:33 AM   #341
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Oh really??? Just cause there is a sportbike with a 500cc twin doesnt mean its the bike we want. How stupid are you?
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Old 02-14-2013, 09:27 AM   #342
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if they ever decide a price

Honda Canada has priced the 500X the same as the CBR500. May be we'll see the same done for the US market?
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Old 02-14-2013, 01:08 PM   #343
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Oh really??? Just cause there is a sportbike with a 500cc twin doesnt mean its the bike we want. How stupid are you?
My stupidity is exponentially smaller than your rudeness. Rudeness is a function of stupidity; therefore ... (assuming that you are bright enough to complete the thought presented here, which is doubtful, seeing how you went straight to a personal attack without any provocation or logical reason...)

You obviously don't know what you want.

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...Speaking in general...
Compare the engine layout, weight, power, fuel economy, range, acceleration, top speed and ergonomics of the Ninja 500, the Suzuki GS500 and the Honda 500. In the last years of their production, no one even seemed to notice the former two, while the latter is pretty much a rehash of the exact same concept. Yet the Honda receives 11 pages of allocades without so much as a single "in house" test ride.

Funny, yes. But obviously I'm interested in the Honda too, or else I wouldn't be in this thread. The thought of a new 500 twin with FI and factory luggage (and a good price!) has me waiting for this bike to show up at a local dealer.
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Old 02-14-2013, 01:11 PM   #344
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The CB's have EFI, ABS and modern tire sizes! Luggage too.

The Kwak and Suzuki were low-tech in the 90s, no wonder they didn't sell in the late 00's.
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Old 02-14-2013, 01:23 PM   #345
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...Speaking in general...
Compare the engine layout, weight, power, fuel economy, range, acceleration, top speed and ergonomics of the Ninja 500, the Suzuki GS500 and the Honda 500. In the last years of their production, no one even seemed to notice the former two, while the latter is pretty much a rehash of the exact same concept. Yet the Honda receives 11 pages of allocades without so much as a single "in house" test ride.

Funny, yes. But obviously I'm interested in the Honda too, or else I wouldn't be in this thread. The thought of a new 500 twin with FI and factory luggage (and a good price!) has me waiting for this bike to show up at a local dealer.
I agree about the general performance, though it's actually worse than a decade ago. My old CB500 punted out 57bhp, and these 500s are 47bhp due to the Euro laws. I am very interested to see if the rumoured 54bhp version is available as an ECU mod.

The thing that attracts me to the 500 series is all about utility and cost. I could finance one of these easily (maybe 90 a month over 3-4 years, after a modest deposit) and even if Honda's claimed mpg is optimistic I still think the X is a 240-mile to reserve tank.

As Grainbelt says, add a raft of accessories and warranty/dealer back-up and I think it's a winner. I'll be looking at an ex-demo or '800 of accessories free' offer about 18 months after launch.

For me, the standard riding position/pegs, slightly higher bhp, and lower weight, probably put the 500 above the CTX bikes.

There are lots of bikes I could buy used, but after 10 years of used bikes I'm a bit sick of the cost to keep them on the road, and if I want to slake a thirst for big power, big speed, I figure I can hire a bike for the weekend..

It's a new paradigm for me. Any two wheels is better than no two wheels, and all that. And I have practically zero motorcycle ego, which helps.
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