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Old 02-13-2013, 05:19 AM   #211
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Forgotten in the sense that it is in bad shape.
not sure what you mean by "bad shape"....the road surface is fine, it's just a parking lot certain hours of the day depending on which way you're going.

instead of a toll lane, I wouldn't mind seeing an elevated lane that goes all the way around with no off-ramps, for thru traffic.
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Old 02-13-2013, 09:47 AM   #212
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not sure what you mean by "bad shape"....the road surface is fine, it's just a parking lot certain hours of the day depending on which way you're going.

instead of a toll lane, I wouldn't mind seeing an elevated lane that goes all the way around with no off-ramps, for thru traffic.

Well, I am comparing it to the toll road. You know the spot where it transitions from toll to public? That's my standard. The reality is, it's a cash cow if tolled just as the e-470 is. However, it will push a fair amount of traffic off road if fully tolled onto side streets just like Gun Club is during commute times.

Maybe they fixed it, but there was a bad spot located on the on-ramp between I-25N and C-470 EB. Then again, I-25 is no picnic either. Much of the "free"way around here is in rough shape, at least to me.
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Old 02-13-2013, 10:47 AM   #213
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"Managed lanes" (PC term for Toll roads) coming to a roadway near you...

US 36 Boulder- Denver
C-470

You know that "third lane" they are boring through the Twin Tunnels outside of Idaho Springs? The one that will have all the eastbound I-70 routed on the frontage road AROUND the twin tunnels from say end of March through December?

Yep. Toll Lane.
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Old 02-13-2013, 11:18 AM   #214
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Bad Shape!!! What road around CO is in Bad Shape?

Go to the East Coast or Michigan if you think the roads around Colorado are in poor shape. Remember we have freeze/thaw cycles in Colorado which is hard on roadways.
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Old 02-13-2013, 11:51 AM   #215
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Toll roads are BS. Especially when they add lights and lower speed limits on adjacent roads to force traffic onto the toll roads, then turn around and sell the toll roads to private, for profit enterprises. Just like E470.

Another great move by our scum bag politicians.
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Old 02-13-2013, 01:41 PM   #216
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Bad Shape!!! What road around CO is in Bad Shape?

Go to the East Coast or Michigan if you think the roads around Colorado are in poor shape. Remember we have freeze/thaw cycles in Colorado which is hard on roadways.
And the occasional chunk from the passing plow.
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Toll roads are BS. Especially when they add lights and lower speed limits on adjacent roads to force traffic onto the toll roads, then turn around and sell the toll roads to private, for profit enterprises. Just like E470.

Another great move by our scum bag politicians.

Toll roads suck I agree, but where are the added lights and lower speed limits people keep bringing up. I live close to the airport (120th and Tower) and use Tower road quite often when I'm on my off time. The only place that should not have a stop light IMHO is the one between canopy parking and Usa parking. As far as speed limits Tower is 45 mph the whole way and if you are going that fast you will get passed by everyone except tourists in rental cars.

There is nothing forcing me to take E470.
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