Calgarians that dualsport

[Shibby!]

Originally Posted by Lycan1

BigDog seems to like his. There is a sm version (2008) for sale on Kijiji for $3900. north of the city. The bike is pretty much unchanged from 2008 - 2013. They just need a Safari tank to make them trip worthy. The engines are rock solid from everything that I have read. Thinking about one of these myself.

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehi...AdIdZ450033108

I'm going back and forth with more things than one. Considering getting back into serious dirt biking, or new trip bike. XRR's aren't around so I revisited the WRR.

Sadly this one is gone and the rest of them are on crack pricing. This bike was a pretty good deal!

Anybody here pick it up? I'm to the point today that I thought I'd just buy it to ride around this summer and sell if I didnt like it, but when I went to check it out it was gone =(

[Lycan1]

Originally Posted by Shibby!

I'm going back and forth with more things than one. Considering getting back into serious dirt biking, or new trip bike. XRR's aren't around so I revisited the WRR.

Sadly this one is gone and the rest of them are on crack pricing. This bike was a pretty good deal!

Anybody here pick it up? I'm to the point today that I thought I'd just buy it to ride around this summer and sell if I didn't like it, but when I went to check it out it was gone =(

WRR never last long on Kijiji when priced well. The one in Cranbrook is a good example of "on crack pricing". even with the goodies, (which never actually bring up the price of used) ask me how I know, it is about $1600 more than anyone is likely to pay. You could buy a new one for that price at the right dealer.

[Shibby!]

There's a few on there that are higher than new pricing! The one quoted as being 10K+ has smoked a little too much. All I can see is full exhaust and tank. I know both those items are expensive compared to XRR pricing, but that doesn't mean they are 3 grand worth.

As you mentioned, parts don't add to the sell price, they help sell the bike.

3800 was a good deal. I've seen them over the years get listed for that price because they don't have a huge market. It's a solid bike for that price for sure though. 7500 used? Eh, there are other options just as good, or better. It puts you into Xchallenge, DR/XR, high mileaged 950/990's, TE610/630, GS800 and 690 range.

[windquest]

Originally Posted by Shibby!

There's a few on there that are higher than new pricing! The one quoted as being 10K+ has smoked a little too much. All I can see is full exhaust and tank. I know both those items are expensive compared to XRR pricing, but that doesn't mean they are 3 grand worth.

As you mentioned, parts don't add to the sell price, they help sell the bike.

3800 was a good deal. I've seen them over the years get listed for that price because they don't have a huge market. It's a solid bike for that price for sure though. 7500 used? Eh, there are other options just as good, or better. It puts you into Xchallenge, DR/XR, high mileaged 950/990's, TE610/630, GS800 and 690 range.

Shibby, I good friend of mine has a WR250R, I'm sure he'd let you try it out to see if u like it...

[Shibby!]

I've actually rode on a bit in Yuma, AZ after a trip to Baja. It was hard to jump from the XRR to a 250, but I didn't give it a fair shot. Just around the neighborhood a bit.

Things I instantly noticed:

1) They still aren't light. (about the same weight of the XRR I believe)
2) The power was missing, but that's not a huge issue.
3) Gearbox, although it has 6 gears, felt quite notchy. Dare I say almost cheap? Maybe it was just positive and not like the XRR I just finished riding 4000km's on.
4) Electric start, solid power generation, and a factory speedo/odo was luxury for me.
5) Pretty smooth if I remember correctly. I only got on it a few times.

Till I put more thought into this I'm not taking it overly seriously. If one comes up for cheap I might pick it up if I have the money laying around () but till then, I won't even entertain the thought until I see numbers in either low 4's or 3's.

[desmodab]

Hey guys - I know this is a dual sport thread so I'm hesitant to post here now that I have my Ducati (which despite their marketing materials is not and never will be a dual sport machine ). One of these days I'll get a second bike for DS but that will require a few more years of wife re-training. That being said, I was reading a few posts back about Lycan's challenges with the dealer routing his brake lines on the wrong side of the forks and thought I'd share this fun story of dealers (or lack thereof!) in Calgary:

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=862582

So at least you HAVE a dealer in YYC!

Good riding, DD

[Lycan1]

Originally Posted by desmodab

Hey guys - I know this is a dual sport thread so I'm hesitant to post here now that I have my Ducati (which despite their marketing materials is not and never will be a dual sport machine ). One of these days I'll get a second bike for DS but that will require a few more years of wife re-training. That being said, I was reading a few posts back about Lycan's challenges with the dealer routing his brake lines on the wrong side of the forks and thought I'd share this fun story of dealers (or lack thereof!) in Calgary:

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=862582

So at least you HAVE a dealer in YYC!

Good riding, DD

I once read a quote; "Ducati, making mechanics out of riders for decades" insert KTM, BMW or whatever. Perhaps the next big thing for adventure vacations will be trips to the factories to become warranty certified mechanics for your particular brand......

[Shibby!]

You could always put it past your wife to sell the ducati and with the same money buy a Vstrom and dual sport. Win-win.

At least you recognize it's not a dual sport, or even an adventure bike. You'd be surprised how many swear that bike is the "do it all wonder". They are nice bikes though. I'd get one for ADV Touring.

Sure, you can flog them down whatever you want. I used to ride the odd gravel road on a supersport bike. It's do-able, but I won't recommend it. haha.

I've given up on dealerships here long, long ago. I've only taken one of my bikes to one dealership a long time ago. I refused to deal with all stealerships hearing the horror stories and dealing with them on buying simple things in store. Of course, they did it wrong and tried to charge me for things I didn't authorize. I even clearly stated I didn't want it done when I brought the bike in. The reason I had to take it in was for a recalled swingarm. That dealership is now out of business (Aprilia / Ducati)

It's more rewarding and most times cheaper to do the work yourself. The benefit here is you LEARN. Not only how to do it, but the mechanics of your bike. It's the first step to kicking dealerships and their 120$/hr charges.


KTM: Know The Mechanic
BMW: Bet on Mechancal Work

[Lycan1]

$120.00/ hr is the off- season rate. They have to pay for the bling-y showrooms and shops somehow, and I understand that. All I ask is that they do the work right and stand behind it. When that isn't the case then I can't and won't justify the cost!

Hell, there was a time I would let them do tire changes for me. I watched while the "mechanic" ripped off a valve stem from a tube (that he forgot to loosen the nut from) while pulling the tire off as if it were tubeless. Then they tried to tell me it was an old rotted tube. When I shut them down (I bought the tube 2 months before, from them) , they gave me a new HD tube no-charge. It would have been a different story if I had not been standing there, watching. That was the last time a paid to have someone change a tire for me. Anger and disgust can be great motivators to learn a new skill.

KTM: Keeps Taking Money

BMW: Bring more wallet

[Shibby!]

Originally Posted by Lycan1

$120.00/ hr is the off- season rate. They have to pay for the bling-y showrooms and shops somehow, and I understand that. All I ask is that they do the work right and stand behind it. When that isn't the case then I can't and won't justify the cost!

Hell, there was a time I would let them do tire changes for me. I watched while the "mechanic" ripped off a valve stem from a tube (that he forgot to loosen the nut from) while pulling the tire off as if it were tubeless. Then they tried to tell me it was an old rotted tube. When I shut them down (I bought the tube 2 months before, from them) , they gave me a new HD tube no-charge. It would have been a different story if I had not been standing there, watching. That was the last time a paid to have someone change a tire for me. Anger and disgust can be great motivators to learn a new skill.

KTM: Keeps Taking Money

BMW: Bring more wallet

Sad thing is their "tech's" are often very green, or unskilled all together, yet they still charge 120$/hr. Tire changers are often highschool students and the like.

120$/hr isn't cheap, but for some things yes it might be worth it, but most often not. It's strange how mechanics make the same or less then most trades, but get charged out at nearly twice the price? Never did understand that. Oh yea, like you said, it's so they can have fancy show rooms with bikes that sit there and don't move because they gouge AND hire a ton of staff that know next to nothing about our industry and riding in general.

I made this comment on another forum and a store sponser made a bad comment about it, but I go into stores expecting the worse, so in the rare event they have or know something I come out happy. Going in expecting something is the wrong approach and normally leaves a sour taste in the mouth. This was in relation to gun stores, but same thing applies. I'm also into precision shooting.

What I do love and look forward to is either receiving incorrect information, or better yet the blank face received from asking a question that the person working at the store has NO idea about. Blackfoot is good for that one. The last time I had that I was asking about suspension shims for re-valving suspension. It went through nearly every person in their parts department like a domino effect of blank, dumbfounded faces. haha. GW (for honda parts) seems to be the best in town and often surprising how fair their pricing on parts can be. I always check there before buying stateside.


I'm excited to ride this spring but I know it's a long ways away. Even easy, non-pass trails will likely have AVY debri. This season hasn't been too bad so maybe things will be accessible earlier. I'd like to get some early season DS and camping in.

[Jeathrow Bowdean]

I found a Ma and Pop shop to do my work. They take pride in every thing they do, and he has what it takes to get the job done right. His kids rock because he keeps a close eye open at all times !!!

From Jeathrow Bowdean in Western Canada

[Mr. Canoehead]

Originally Posted by Shibby!

You could always put it past your wife to sell the ducati and with the same money buy a Vstrom and dual sport. Win-win.

At least you recognize it's not a dual sport, or even an adventure bike. You'd be surprised how many swear that bike is the "do it all wonder". They are nice bikes though. I'd get one for ADV Touring.

Sure, you can flog them down whatever you want. I used to ride the odd gravel road on a supersport bike. It's do-able, but I won't recommend it. haha.

It's more rewarding and most times cheaper to do the work yourself. The benefit here is you LEARN. Not only how to do it, but the mechanics of your bike. It's the first step to kicking dealerships and their 120$/hr charges.


KTM: Know The Mechanic
BMW: Bet on Mechancal Work

LOL - DesmoDab sold his Vstrom when he bought his Duc. It was the right decision for him and the riding he does. You can't compare a Strom to a MS12 for street riding .

He is also pretty mechanically adept - he did a gold valve install on the forks of the strom and posted an instructional how-to thread.

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[Shibby!]

Here's my gold valve! Free99 too.

[RED CAT]

10 degrees and sunny tomorrow (friday). Are you into it? Was SW a few days ago and everything gravel was dry as a popcorn fart. 0 snow south of Turner Valley. Or we could do a nice 200kms quickie no further south than TV. Its all dry. Got a few guys for saturday too. May do a long one all the way down to #3 and back, as much gravel as possible. That'll be it for a while according to the forecast.

[Beema Killa]

I had planned on tomorrow too but no can do. My daughter has strep throat and has had a fever for a couple days so I will be home tending to her. Saturday is a possibility depending on how long a trip you guys have planned.