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Old 12-08-2012, 03:50 PM   #316
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That's crazy.
Can he not get a new plate from the DMV. Saying the other was destroyed, or lost. Then turn in the new plate..
Ever see what the DMV looks like and how it functions in Veracruz?
It'll get sorted out with time and money. He has lots of one but not
so much of the other! Like most of us this time of year!
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Old 12-08-2012, 03:52 PM   #317
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58,000 views, lots of posts, NO PICTURES of bike, 18 months.

No response from the OP for more than 3 months?

Time for the MODs to NUKE this thread.
You missed the pics. They are there, and they are awesome.
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From what I understand from frequenting various forums you are handling this critisim completely wrong. You are supposed to get bent out of shape and start turning towards personal attacks. Get with the program!
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:10 PM   #318
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Read today for the first time, wow...........
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:17 PM   #319
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58,000 views, lots of posts, NO PICTURES of bike, 18 months.

No response from the OP for more than 3 months?

Time for the MODs to NUKE this thread.
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Ok guys. Got the pics from moosemeat, finally able to upload them.
Damn this thing is sexy!













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Old 12-08-2012, 07:56 PM   #320
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I think that when you talk a big game, and then start the trash talk, people tend to be more apt to hold your feet to the fire and expect you to make good on your own crap. I suppose that juvenile behavior begets juvenile treatment. I've seen TONS of project threads, and in most all of them, people are supportive, helpful, and understanding when and if things don't go as planned. But then again, in most all of those threads the OPers tends to act more like an adult seeking help rather than a child tooting their own horns and talking crap. It's more the demeanor of the OP than anything that makes some, myself included, sorta want to see him at least eat a little crow. If that makes us childish, then so be it.

With that said, in reality, I do hope that he is eventually successful at getting this bike back on the road. But with the money and time that he has invested, and the lengthy delay in getting it completed, I don't think it was quite as quick and easy of a restoration as he originally believed. I still say that anyone with experience with restoring things of questionable function knows to start getting it mechanically sound first, and THEN make it pretty. Then again since he has chosen this as his vocation, and judging from his demeanor I'm guessing he's young and inexperienced, perhaps this has served as a valuable lesson for him at the very least.
This is about the most balanced reply yet.

If anyone has the patience to re-read the thread, a young optimist bought a burned up exotic bike on the cheap. That's where I'm skeptical from the get-go. Ambitious for sure, maybe something worth resurrecting. But a bike with that many specialized alloys, not to mention the temper of the frame itself will be affected. I didn't say possibly, I said will be. And we all know that heat distorts metal, so what about the alignment of the frame (the most important structure on a bike)? I'd think safety would be an initial concern.

When 'details' like this were brought up in conversation, the OP responded with emoticons flipping off well-respected members of the BMW community. Not to mention dealers themselves.

When it was also evident that the OP was in training at MMI, a huge hole in logic opened up. The simple fact that you get things running, mechanically and structurally sound first before dolling up a bike with carbon fiber and powdercoat. I don't know how to connect an MMI grad to a bike like this and not equate that to a complete fail.

Last, there's that small detail about a possible rebuild title which in fact isn't small at all.

Some could call it a pile on, but it was pretty clear early on this was a visual exercise (which is fine), but I think we were all hoping for a good rebuild with thought behind it. It would have been fantastic to see this bike be better than an HPN, using skills and technology gained from programs at MMI or similar shops. (Gusseting, billet details, custom software or suspension setup)

I guess that was what I was hoping for. I know any rebuild or new construction doesn't happen overnight, so maybe there's some possibility for a 'Phoenix'. Let's hope for that. I just can't imagine the amount of scraping molten brittle plastic out of threads on this bike.
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Old 02-15-2013, 12:02 AM   #321
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What about this project ??
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:46 AM   #322
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Old 02-15-2013, 02:56 AM   #323
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I think that when you talk a big game, and then start the trash talk, people tend to be more apt to hold your feet to the fire and expect you to make good on your own crap. I suppose that juvenile behavior begets juvenile treatment. I've seen TONS of project threads, and in most all of them, people are supportive, helpful, and understanding when and if things don't go as planned. But then again, in most all of those threads the OPers tends to act more like an adult seeking help rather than a child tooting their own horns and talking crap. It's more the demeanor of the OP than anything that makes some, myself included, sorta want to see him at least eat a little crow. If that makes us childish, then so be it.
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This is about the most balanced reply yet.

If anyone has the patience to re-read the thread, a young optimist bought a burned up exotic bike on the cheap. That's where I'm skeptical from the get-go. Ambitious for sure, maybe something worth resurrecting. But a bike with that many specialized alloys, not to mention the temper of the frame itself will be affected. I didn't say possibly, I said will be. And we all know that heat distorts metal, so what about the alignment of the frame (the most important structure on a bike)? I'd think safety would be an initial concern.

When 'details' like this were brought up in conversation, the OP responded with emoticons flipping off well-respected members of the BMW community. Not to mention dealers themselves.

When it was also evident that the OP was in training at MMI, a huge hole in logic opened up. The simple fact that you get things running, mechanically and structurally sound first before dolling up a bike with carbon fiber and powdercoat. I don't know how to connect an MMI grad to a bike like this and not equate that to a complete fail.

Last, there's that small detail about a possible rebuild title which in fact isn't small at all.

Some could call it a pile on, but it was pretty clear early on this was a visual exercise (which is fine), but I think we were all hoping for a good rebuild with thought behind it. It would have been fantastic to see this bike be better than an HPN, using skills and technology gained from programs at MMI or similar shops. (Gusseting, billet details, custom software or suspension setup)

I guess that was what I was hoping for. I know any rebuild or new construction doesn't happen overnight, so maybe there's some possibility for a 'Phoenix'. Let's hope for that. I just can't imagine the amount of scraping molten brittle plastic out of threads on this bike.
By my recollection, the chest thumping began only after the negative comments started. This thread did not unfold like a normal build thread specifically because lots of people (who I assume were jealously hoping someone else would not end up with a cheap route to an HP-2) piled in with loads of negative comments. That Moosmeat responded somewhat aggressively may have fueled the fire but he is not entirely to blame.

The comment about arguing with dealers is especially assinine as the only obvious dealer particiating seemed to be strongly favoring the self-serving position that it would not a successful rebuild unless it involved tens of throusands of dollars of brand new parts from a dealer.

I have no idea whether Moosemeat has other priorities that have stalled completion of the project, has sold it on unfinished, completed it and is no longer on ADV and therefore not letting us know of his success, or has come across some hitherto unforeseen snag that has totally precluded completion and left him with a very fancy and expensive paperweight. IMO, the latter possibility is the least likely, yet is the only one suggested by most of the recent posters - Looks like a continuation of the pile on to me.
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Old 02-15-2013, 05:02 AM   #324
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What about this project ??
Stop reviving this thread TT
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Old 02-15-2013, 05:18 AM   #325
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Hi Loutre,
I read you are a F800GS driver.
I understand this subject can not interrest you, but I'm interrested in the final project
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Old 02-15-2013, 09:34 AM   #326
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I was just thinking of this thread. Thanks for bumping it, Loutre.

I see that Moosemeat logged in today so hopefully he can give us an update.
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Old 02-15-2013, 04:57 PM   #327
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Hi,I am just a minor to the community.I saw this thread quite sometimeback,back only got to read almost most of it just 2days ago: and saw where the heat started.I felt the effort spend on this rebuilding is what we called,blood,sweat and tears.

But I think moosemeat needs more supportive than negative feedbacks to motivate him in whatever he has started.Although the negetive comments is not really negetive,it's useful informations and also self concern on how one would take on the steps on reviving a dead pig before beautify it.But its all a different story afterall as it depends on how the threadstarter wants to do it becoz it is his story,and we just happy to read and learnt from it.
We would just share his glory if it ever did start afterall with the amazing outcome.
Putting too much pressure on the negetive note,may have demoralised Moosemeat to share the updates on the project here in adv and we all is the one who loose out to curiousity,and victory to those naysayers..

just my 2cents worth.
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Old 02-15-2013, 11:33 PM   #328
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hi,i am just a minor to the community.i saw this thread quite sometimeback,back only got to read almost most of it just 2days ago: And saw where the heat started.i felt the effort spend on this rebuilding is what we called,blood,sweat and tears.

But i think moosemeat needs more supportive than negative feedbacks to motivate him in whatever he has started.although the negetive comments is not really negetive,it's useful informations and also self concern on how one would take on the steps on reviving a dead pig before beautify it.but its all a different story afterall as it depends on how the threadstarter wants to do it becoz it is his story,and we just happy to read and learnt from it.
We would just share his glory if it ever did start afterall with the amazing outcome.
Putting too much pressure on the negetive note,may have demoralised moosemeat to share the updates on the project here in adv and we all is the one who loose out to curiousity,and victory to those naysayers..

Just my 2cents worth.
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Old 02-15-2013, 11:57 PM   #329
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Oh, by the way, lets see your HP2........................ If you don't own one, well, there is always the f800gs...............or dl650..................or Triumph800 Tiger.....................
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:05 AM   #330
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So, it's still not running?
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