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Old 02-16-2013, 03:04 PM   #46
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Cummins has engines developed that would work in that truck but I'm sure fiat doesn't want them in there which is a shame because a lot of guys would love to have a Cummins in their grocery getter
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Old 02-16-2013, 07:09 PM   #47
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If it would get 30 MPG, yes. But considering the Wrangler is as aerodynamic as a shoebox, I'm not sure this engine in a Wrangler can achieve the extra mileage required to offset the extra cost of diesel fuel in the U.S.
It ain't the fuel economy!
"The engine is rated at 240 hp and 420 lb-ft of torque"
...and that's gotta be at less than half the rpms of the peak torque in the gas V6. Damn! I got a boner
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Old 02-16-2013, 08:04 PM   #48
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It ain't the fuel economy!
"The engine is rated at 240 hp and 420 lb-ft of torque"
...and that's gotta be at less than half the rpms of the peak torque in the gas V6. Damn! I got a boner
What are you going to do with it? The current gasser has plenty of power, and in fact in low range it's overkill.
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Old 02-16-2013, 10:39 PM   #49
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What are you going to do with it? The current gasser has plenty of power, and in fact in low range it's overkill.
Anything he wants to, it would be his jeep.

I thought about putting a 4BT in my CJ7 when the 256 was giving up the ghost, but instead put a small block in it as it was cheaper to do than even rebuilding the 256. I look back on it and wish I had put a 4BT in it for slow speed stuff and fuel milage, but there are times when leaving the light with the front tires in the air and leaving a mustang looking stupid makes it worth it (on a closed course). no not my daily driver, not even close, but it is fun to run around in the desert with.
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Old 02-17-2013, 05:41 AM   #50
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Anything he wants to, it would be his jeep.

I thought about putting a 4BT in my CJ7 when the 256 was giving up the ghost, but instead put a small block in it as it was cheaper to do than even rebuilding the 256. I look back on it and wish I had put a 4BT in it for slow speed stuff and fuel milage, but there are times when leaving the light with the front tires in the air and leaving a mustang looking stupid makes it worth it (on a closed course). no not my daily driver, not even close, but it is fun to run around in the desert with.
If it would pull the front wheels at a stop light and leave a mustang in a drag race, or if it gets 30 mpg I'd get it. But if it falls significantly short of those capabilities I wouldn't. The point I was making was it costs 25% + to run diesel compared to gas in the states. This V6 in the wrangler would have to really shine in mileage to be worth it. As for power, the current gasser is no slouch and is speed limited to 100 mph anyway.
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Old 02-17-2013, 06:21 AM   #51
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"Crankcase capacity is 7.7 L (2 gal)."

hot damn, hopefully there's long oil change intervals
My 04 dodge takes 3 gallons. The recommended oil change interval is 7,500 for severe duty and 15,000 miles for light duty. I'm kinda old school and still change it every 5,000 miles. I have gone 10,000 miles between changes twice though.

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Look up "Fumoto valve". Makes oil changes much easier!
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Old 02-17-2013, 07:03 AM   #52
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My 04 dodge takes 3 gallons. The recommended oil change interval is 7,500 for severe duty and 15,000 miles for light duty. I'm kinda old school and still change it every 5,000 miles. I have gone 10,000 miles between changes twice though.



Look up "Fumoto valve". Makes oil changes much easier!
It's a bit scary as it sticks out...
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Old 02-17-2013, 06:34 PM   #53
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Too bad we can`t get an American mfg to coming out with one
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Old 02-17-2013, 09:57 PM   #54
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Too bad we can`t get an American mfg to coming out with one
GM and Ford both have diesel engines in the ROTW (rest of the world) markets. Maybe not V6 diesels, but diesel engines in their small pickups nonetheless...
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Old 02-20-2013, 02:35 PM   #55
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if it gets 30 mpg I'd get it. But if it falls significantly short of those capabilities I wouldn't. The point I was making was it costs 25% + to run diesel compared to gas in the states. This V6 in the wrangler would have to really shine in mileage to be worth it. As for power, the current gasser is no slouch and is speed limited to 100 mph anyway.
Plus, what will the option price be ? Currently the big three are getting around $8000 for the diesel option. That with the extra cost of fuel will give no payback like diesels did years ago...

Also, if you are looking for that big truck sound, you will not get it here, this engine will not be much, if any noisier than a gas mill.

I have a new Sprinter in my shop, you can barely hear the engine, in and out of the rig.

Glad I got my Cummins back in 99, It looks like a truck, rides like a truck, sounds like a truck and with the stick coming out of the floor, shifts like a truck ....
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Old 02-20-2013, 03:16 PM   #56
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As long as we are wishing for unobtanium...

How about this, a true small pickup available with either a 2.2 4 cyl or a 3.2 V6:

http://www.ford.com.au/commercial/ranger
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:04 PM   #57
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I'd love to get a RAM 1500 with a TD in it.

I'd love it even more if it were a 4BT, and not some off brand Italian diesel.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:05 PM   #58
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price? hard to beat an old 7.3 IDI in 3/4 ton F250 approaching close to 20mpg...
empty? How you doing that?
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:41 PM   #59
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empty? How you doing that?
When new, it got 14
added big tires - 13
chipped - 13.5
took off tailgate - 13.6
drove at 60mph - 16.1
rounded up to nearest even multiple of ten - 20
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Old 02-21-2013, 04:35 PM   #60
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When new, it got 14
added big tires - 13
chipped - 13.5
took off tailgate - 13.6
drove at 60mph - 16.1
rounded up to nearest even multiple of ten - 20
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