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Old 02-16-2013, 07:17 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by ultane View Post
Use steel valve stem caps with the rubber insert so that they form an airtight seal when screwed down securely on the valve stem. Otherwise the centrifugal force of the wheal spinning can open the schrader valve enough to let air escape when at highway speeds.

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I would think the opposite is true! CF would cause the valve to seat more fully.
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Old 02-16-2013, 07:17 AM   #17
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My buddy had a rear heidenau replaced by the company cause it leaked air thru the sidewall itself....little bubbles coming thru the sidewall. They replaced the tire.
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Old 02-16-2013, 11:32 AM   #18
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Originally Posted by Yeahbaby View Post
Have you checked the valve stem itself. This year on the highway north from Yakima, I was running normal speeds minding my own business. I had a sudden deflation of a brand new tire. WTF, When I stopped I could find no nail or punctures. Couldn't figure it out. When I brushed my hand against the valve stem, voilà. Found the problem. Not a split or tear on the valve stem rubber a one would think. The metal stem de-vulcanized from the surrounding rubber. With the remaining air in the tire, it actually was spit out on to the ground. Yes, I have witnesses! Try to explain that one. So for now on, every 2nd tire will get a new valve stem.

Had this happen to me as well. Not fun forking out money for a new tire either.
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Old 02-17-2013, 09:53 AM   #19
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Call this guy if it isn't the valve stem.

He thinks Heidenaus are perfect and has probably mounted 100s +
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Old 11-09-2013, 06:39 PM   #20
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Hidenau K60 Scout front tyre pressure loss.

Thanks for this info Guys. My complaint is similar. New bike and now new Hidenau. Looses pressure at higher speeds. Ie at 140 k burst dropped from2.0 bar down to 1.6. Will go pull it apart and see what I can find!
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Old 11-10-2013, 07:17 AM   #21
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I had a Heidenau front lose pressure and I almost crashed on a trip. Tire pressure was 36 pounds in the morning before the air loss. Previously, the tire had seemed to be losing about 3 pounds a day but I didn't think much of it, just slightly concerned. When I dropped below 25 mph from the highway the tire came off the rim, only providence kept me up with the wife on the back. I was in the middle of nowhere, well, I call 1 mile from Jordan Valley, OR. nowhere...

A good samaratin gave me a ride onto town to the gas station, picked up an air tank and used that to reseat the bead and drove the 1 mile to the station. Filled the tire with Slime, air again, and rode about another hour to Idaho to a motorcycle dealer for a new tire. I had to stop every 20 minutes and add about 10 pounds of air each time. Arriving at a hotel and looking at the tire I could see about a dozen slime tracks coming out of the bead. Some of that may have been caused by the tire coming off.

Needless to say I loved the Heidenau tires and thought it was a fluke, so after My TKC-80 wore out I installed another Heidenau on the front. I also bought a tire pressure monitoring system.

Well, what do you know, This front leaked also!!! Watching the pressure monitor it seemed to be dropping about 2 PSI per hour, on the highway, and 1 psi if I pulled hard on the front brake to a stop from 55 mph! Im now serously annoyed with this tire! My solution was to just put a tube in the front as the valve stem is in the center of the rim. Both K60 rears have been fine.

I will probably continue with the TKC front and K60 rear which is actually a great combination.
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Old 01-24-2014, 02:56 AM   #22
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Had a similar experience recently with the same front tyre. At sudden burst of speed front tyre would drop upto 10 psi instantly. Thanks to the BMW TPC it was all monitored! After removing the wheel and reseating the bead several times we finally removed the tyre to find the bead damaged. New tyre!!! The guys in Mittagong did the right thing and replaced it FOC.

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Old 01-24-2014, 06:37 AM   #23
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+1 valve stem

Not saying this is the reason but I too had experienced some gradual air loss on my K60's. When I put new ones on last April I also took the opportunity to install new valve stems (90 degree ones) and since then that unusual air loss has gone.
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Old 01-24-2014, 06:56 AM   #24
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This thread is going to the dogs.
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Old 01-24-2014, 05:32 PM   #25
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Thumb 90 degree aluminum valve stems

They solved the problem fo valve stem separation (metal core comes loose from the rubber stem).

I also found that the stiff bead on the K60s requires a very clean rim - steel wool the seating area and make sure you have neither nicks nor rubber left on the rim from the previous tire.
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Old 01-24-2014, 07:25 PM   #26
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I will never buy another pair of them. I had the same issue of losing pressure at weird times on my front tire-very dangerous. My theory is the tire would get a bit low on pressure, and when I hit something hard it would burp air out and then the bead would be compromised and then the majority of air would escape. The tire is very long lasting, but really buzzes around 100 kph. The sound then seems to disappear again around 120kph. Mine were the first generation, and I'd heard some issues had been sorted by Heidenau. Too many excellent tires are available by other manufactures to risk, literally death on this tire. A tire that needs a special procedure in mounting is ridiculous.
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Old 01-24-2014, 10:17 PM   #27
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I've used three sets of Heidenau's. On first set, would lose 3 or 4 pounds per week. Installed next set with tire bead sealer and never lost pressure again
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