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Old 02-13-2013, 12:47 PM   #6931
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I have had the best luck with liberal usage of high temp moly paste on the back of the pads and all other moving parts. don't forget to lube the caliper pins
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Old 02-16-2013, 04:14 PM   #6932
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Hey guys I got another question. I just ordered a gasket kit for and new rubber seals for my XL. I'm wanting to pull the engine and stop all those damned leaks on the rocker cover and such.

How much time should I set aside to do this? leaking oil is the ONLY problem this bike has
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Old 02-16-2013, 07:57 PM   #6933
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Where is it leaking from specifically?
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Old 02-17-2013, 02:17 AM   #6934
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Should be easy fixes, Its just not gonna be fun pulling the engine. I just want an idea of how long it might take. I use my XL for trail riding and commuting and I want to be prepared when I do this so I have minimal downtime. I ordered a kit and I'm going to use as much of it as I can
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Old 02-17-2013, 04:34 AM   #6935
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At least six hours.
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Old 02-17-2013, 09:10 AM   #6936
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At least six hours.
Or six days when you add in the "25 year old bike might have other broken/worn out things you find inside after you open it up" factor.
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Old 02-17-2013, 09:17 AM   #6937
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No, That was six hours to get the engine out of the frame.
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Old 02-17-2013, 09:47 AM   #6938
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At least six hours.
just to pull the engine? I could see that.

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Or six days when you add in the "25 year old bike might have other broken/worn out things you find inside after you open it up" factor.
Well the engine is fresh, only about 5k miles on it since last rebuild. it just leaks a lil bit of oil and its quite annoying. The compression test was excellent, the cam chain didn't look stretched when I was chaning the clutch cover a while back. So hopefully I don't run into another problem. I was talking to a mechanic at my local bike shop a while back and he claimed to have a XL600 back in the late 80s in which the compression ring was broken in six places and it ran like a champ before he tore into it

Damn, I'm gonna have my work cut out for me. My brother in law is a certified small engine technician and I will have his assistance in taking these leaks on. I think I might just wait til I get my taxes and build up this engine since I gotta pull it anyway.
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:05 AM   #6939
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No it shouldn't take six hours to pull the engine. I was just kidding. Since I don't know your wrenching capabilities I don't know how long it will take you. I can get the engine out in about an hour.
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:10 AM   #6940
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No it shouldn't take six hours to pull the engine. I was just kidding. Since I don't know your wrenching capabilities I don't know how long it will take you. I can get the engine out in about an hour.
Lol okay good. I'm an okay/average home mechanic. You're an RFVC expert and I'm not. I had a good read on your XR650L engine rebuild thread. Takes you an hour, So I'm gonna put down 3 for me After that it's just changing gaskets and thats not a problem. I've rebuilt the carbs, changed the clutch cover and rebuilt the forks with no real problems. Not scared to take this on, I'm just scared of not riding for a little bit lmao

Any special tools needed for this? I think I might just need a torque wrench, right?
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:54 AM   #6941
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The only thing I use a torque wrench for is the cylinder and head bolts. I have a calibrated wrist...
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Old 02-17-2013, 07:41 PM   #6942
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Well, Steve pretty much covered everything.

Having just done much of this stuff myself, I would say that if you are focused, and have all your tools and parts lined up, you could get the engine out, gaskets and seals replaced, and engine back in, in a day to a day-and-a-half of work.

Of course that's just an estimate, actual results may vary.

Good luck! It's actually not too hard.

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Old 02-18-2013, 04:10 AM   #6943
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just to pull the engine? I could see that.



Well the engine is fresh, only about 5k miles on it since last rebuild. it just leaks a lil bit of oil and its quite annoying. The compression test was excellent, the cam chain didn't look stretched when I was chaning the clutch cover a while back. So hopefully I don't run into another problem. I was talking to a mechanic at my local bike shop a while back and he claimed to have a XL600 back in the late 80s in which the compression ring was broken in six places and it ran like a champ before he tore into it

Damn, I'm gonna have my work cut out for me. My brother in law is a certified small engine technician and I will have his assistance in taking these leaks on. I think I might just wait til I get my taxes and build up this engine since I gotta pull it anyway.
I wouldn't pull the motor unless its leaking oil like the Exxon Valdez. Not worth all the work over a few drops of oil imo unless you also build the motor up or do something else worthwhile at the same time. But then again I'd rather ride than wrench
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:45 AM   #6944
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No, That was six hours to get the engine out of the frame.
Lol. Their is a certain dance you have to do with the engine to get it out. It has to be tilted a certain way, lifted out a certain direction, and one of the valve adjustment caps have to come off. The whole procedure is almost as obnoxious and just as particular as getting the airbox out.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:52 AM   #6945
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I wouldn't pull the motor unless its leaking oil like the Exxon Valdez. Not worth all the work over a few drops of oil imo unless you also build the motor up or do something else worthwhile at the same time. But then again I'd rather ride than wrench
My problem is with oil leaks is the smell. My head cover gasket leaked oil into the spark plug well and when you'd sit at intersections all you could smell was burning oil. To me it's a terrible smell because of certain memories it brings back. I used to work on cars as a kid and every whiff of that I get reminds me of all the leaky old shitboxes I had to deal with.
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