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Old 02-19-2013, 12:57 AM   #631
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I believe the factory inserts allow for the heated grip wires to pass around the flatted portion of those ends. Swapping them would require a wiring workaround.
You are correct. Check out the link.

http://triumphinstructions.com/ProdDocs/A9638058-US.pdf
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Old 02-19-2013, 01:13 AM   #632
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For reals?? You can remove those funky skinny bolt inserts and then install expanding plugs like normal bars?

That's how I would want to do it.
I really should do something. Sooner or later I'm gonna drop the thing and it will probably break a lever when I'm in BFE.

I thought those inserts looked fairly sturdy. I just did not like the small bolt. Its only purpose on the Roadie being to hold that bar end cap thingy on. I did stick a pair of needle nose pliers in the bar end and try to unscrew the stock insert. Couldn't get it to move. But the leverage I could get with pliers was minimal. I think they are plenty strong enough to hold the handguards if you drop the bike. I know mine are on there solid. If I crash hard enough to knock one of those handguards off then the broken handguard will probably be the least of my worries.

I still want to see someone remove them though. Just out of curiosity how they work.

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Old 02-19-2013, 08:35 AM   #633
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So what is the best way to mount a Givi Monokey case on a 800XC? I see so many racks (Alt-rider, Sw-Motech, Terrortech) and then custom plates for the monokey / generic givi mount / options and options...

Got a Trekker on the way. Going to put the one 33L as a top box for now and eventually add another and put them as side cases and add a 46L on top, but having to buy one piece at a time as I can afford it...

I want the rack to be black to match the Tiger and the SW Motech appears to only be available in Silver powdercoat on the TT site, but the pics show black.
There is a pretty big price difference in the difference plates and adapters.
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:52 AM   #634
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So what is the best way to mount a Givi Monokey case on a 800XC? I see so many racks (Alt-rider, Sw-Motech, Terrortech) and then custom plates for the monokey / generic givi mount / options and options...
My solution was to use an SW-Motech Alu Rack.

I already had an Alu Rack on another bike, and already owned the Givi Monokey adapter, and already owned the SW-Motech rack extender, so it seemed like a good solution. I can only ride one bike at a time, but this makes it easy to swap stuff between bikes.
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:56 AM   #635
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TT = TouraTech or Twisted Throttle (or other)? I don't see any mention of color on the Twisted Throttle site..
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/sw-mo...auser-topcases
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:02 AM   #636
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Blacktiger, so if my understanding is right, you are saying that no drilling is required? Just unscrewing the stock bar ends and screwing in the Acerbis bar ends?
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For reals?? You can remove those funky skinny bolt inserts and then install expanding plugs like normal bars?
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I believe the factory inserts allow for the heated grip wires to pass around the flatted portion of those ends. Swapping them would require a wiring workaround.
Yes, correct. But only with the Triumph grips. If you use Oxfords or similar, like me, it's no problem.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:06 AM   #637
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TT = TouraTech or Twisted Throttle (or other)? I don't see any mention of color on the Twisted Throttle site..
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/sw-mo...auser-topcases
was looking at the STEEL Rack...

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The Steel-Rack has a silver powder coated finish and includes detailed installation instructions.
Pictures show black, but above quote says it is silver.

$154.98 + $19.99 for Givi Monokey Hardware.

Searching through the pages of "what fits my bike" for 800/800XC, I don't see an alu-rack option. (Aluminum)

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edit: terrortech has this but pics show only in silver. Not that big of a deal... for $122.60

RZLA has Alt Rider for $151.17 but is out of stock for the Givi adapters...

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Old 02-19-2013, 09:08 AM   #638
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So what is the best way to mount a Givi Monokey case on a 800XC? I see so many racks (Alt-rider, Sw-Motech, Terrortech) and then custom plates for the monokey / generic givi mount / options and options...

Got a Trekker on the way.

You just need to make sure that the plate you buy has been drilled to accept the Monokey adaptors http://www.twistedthrottle.com/sw-mo...onokey-topcase and the Trekker will simply click on.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:09 AM   #639
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For reals?? You can remove those funky skinny bolt inserts and then install expanding plugs like normal bars?

That's how I would want to do it.
I really should do something. Sooner or later I'm gonna drop the thing and it will probably break a lever when I'm in BFE.
if your talking about taking out the threaded inserts just remember you will shorten the bars quite drastically. you will also need to move everything in towards the center/ cut your grips. or replace the bars... maybe I'm not reading that right?
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:29 AM   #640
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So what is the best way to mount a Givi Monokey case on a 800XC? I see so many racks (Alt-rider, Sw-Motech, Terrortech) and then custom plates for the monokey / generic givi mount / options and options...
There are many plates out there. Some better, some not so. I've read about a SW Motech plate breaking behind the mounts:

http://www.tiger800.co.uk/index.php?topic=7420.0

And I've seen this:

http://www.tiger800.co.uk/index.php/topic,7616.0.html

Also not a really good design. Personally I have the AltRider rear rack which I use with a Givi Mounting Kit for my Givi V46 and it works fine. I avoid heavy stuff in there and for touring I prefer side cases plus a waterproof Ortlieb duffle, but day to day the Givi/AltRider combination works great for me.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:31 AM   #641
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So I'd need to get the Altrider plate and then the adapters from another source since RevZilla and others seem to be out of them. Hate to pay shipping but apparently I can't get everything from one vendor...
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:35 AM   #642
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So I'd need to get the Altrider plate and then the adapters from another source since RevZilla and others seem to be out of them. Hate to pay shipping but apparently I can't get everything from one vendor...
I got the plate from Revzilla and the Givi kit from AltRider. It's nearly a year ago though. They are both great to deal with. I had some trouble with the fitment first but AltRider send a new plate that then was absolutely perfect. Maybe their first "setup Tiger" had some unusual spacing there ...
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:45 AM   #643
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I want the rack to be black to match the Tiger and the SW Motech appears to only be available in Silver powdercoat on the TT site, but the pics show black.
There is a pretty big price difference in the difference plates and adapters.
Wolfman has one in black. http://www.wolfmanluggage.com/Racks/...Top_Racks.html
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:47 AM   #644
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I thought those inserts looked fairly sturdy. I just did not like the small bolt. Its only purpose on the Roadie being to hold that bar end cap thingy on. I did stick a pair of needle nose pliers in the bar end and try to unscrew the stock insert. Couldn't get it to move. But the leverage I could get with pliers was minimal. I think they are plenty strong enough to hold the handguards if you drop the bike. I know mine are on there solid. If I crash hard enough to knock one of those handguards off then the broken handguard will probably be the least of my worries.

I still want to see someone remove them though. Just out of curiosity how they work.

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I was looking for a way to avoid drilling and tapping. While I've had good success with that process I just thought removing those threaded inserts and using standard mounting expanders would be better. Then again, maybe not.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:11 AM   #645
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I did stick a pair of needle nose pliers in the bar end and try to unscrew the stock insert. Couldn't get it to move. But the leverage I could get with pliers was minimal.

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Pliers???? Those things are in there tight. I do know they come out because a friend of mine got them out of his TEX bars. Just need to use the correct size spanner on those flats.
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