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Old 02-16-2013, 06:18 AM   #31
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Odd. Here in Mexico the Anakkees worked great in the loose stuff, heavy rains, etc... I found they cornered a lot better than those damn Battlewings! Subjective verdict, I am looking forward to that Anakkee 3 design. Both tire pressure sensors gave up the ghost last weekend, almost 50,000kms and they both failed at exactly the same time.
If nothing, Motorrad builds consistency along with the obsolescence into some things.
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Old 02-16-2013, 02:02 PM   #32
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Odd. Here in Mexico the Anakkees worked great in the loose stuff, heavy rains, etc... I found they cornered a lot better than those damn Battlewings! Subjective verdict, I am looking forward to that Anakkee 3 design. Both tire pressure sensors gave up the ghost last weekend, almost 50,000kms and they both failed at exactly the same time.
If nothing, Motorrad builds consistency along with the obsolescence into some things.
MikeMike ...

I'm sure I spend more time on asphalt than you do, but I was not a huge fan of Anakee II either ...
I have tournaces now ... but the Anakee III looks interesting..........

I have heard that the battery in the BMW pressure sensors is not designed to be "user replaceable" which if true is a real bummer as the new sensors are not cheap, and would have to be re-married to the computer system by the dealer ....

I've not held one of the sensors in my hand, but you might be able to find a way to disassemble and replace the battery in the sensor ...
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Old 02-16-2013, 02:24 PM   #33
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Both tire pressure sensors gave up the ghost last weekend, almost 50,000kms and they both failed at exactly the same time.
I've seen them go one at a time or close together, but not exactly the same time. Sure hope it's not the RDC computer.

Either way you're in for a shop visit to get everyone reaquainted, except if you figure out the battery change. I believe the tool to disassemble those comes in 1LB, 2 LB and 5 LB IIRC.
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:08 AM   #34
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Yo can heat up the sensor where the epoxy goop is and replace the common and cheap battery, however with the temps we get here I would need a good epoxy like the original to hold it back together.
I have heard you can fit a sensor, run the bike up to 40kmh and the new sensor is recognized by the computer but I have to do it myself to verify this. Until my tires wear out, it'll be my digital tire guage that gets the work out.
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:22 AM   #35
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Please do a thread with pics when you attempt to change the batteries. It would be very valuable.

If you succeed and reuse the old sensors (keeping their original fr/rr orientation) then no computer is necessary. If you change them out entirely then no, it must be paired. All sensors use a discrete frequency or other geeky term to be unique, like bluetooth. Otherwise the bike couldnt tell the front from the back or from the beemer guy at the lights beside you.

Can't say about the epoxy other than to keep it light. The more weight at the sensor means more weight opposite on the rim to keep the balance.
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Old 02-17-2013, 11:49 AM   #36
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So you pay $140 each for the sensors and a labor charge on top of that to pair the things.
Hope my current tires last awhile!
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:56 PM   #37
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So you pay $140 each for the sensors and a labor charge on top of that to pair the things.
Hope my current tires last awhile!
yeah.... initially I was disappointed I could not get a bike with the TPMS from BMW as I thought it would be cool to have it warn me on the dash of low pressure .... then I found out about the battery issue ... sheessssssssssss

I thought about getting one of these:
http://www.webbikeworld.com/r4/tiregard-wireless-tpms/
but some folks said the sensor weight so much (~45g) that it fatigued the valve stem....

I just found this system the other day and they claim sensors only weigh ~17g so I may check into it....
http://www.rvtirepressure.com/
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:08 AM   #38
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45 grams is roughly 1 3/4 oz.

Be interesting to see what the BMW monitor piece weighs when I change it.
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45 grams is roughly 1 3/4 oz.

Be interesting to see what the BMW monitor piece weighs when I change it.
From pictures, I'll bet they weigh even more ...
The big concern with the valve stem mounted units was the weight on the end of the stem would vibrate/wobble around and fatigue the valve stem ... and I gotta admit ... 1 3/4 oz is a lot .... the 17g units would seem light enough to not be a big deal, but I think with that unit the console must have 12V supplied while most of the competition runs on batteries... There is Motorcycle show in town next wkend ... vendor may be there.... will see what they have...
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Old 02-19-2013, 06:38 AM   #40
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Odd. Here in Mexico the Anakkees worked great in the loose stuff, heavy rains, etc... I found they cornered a lot better than those damn Battlewings! Subjective verdict, I am looking forward to that Anakkee 3 design. Both tire pressure sensors gave up the ghost last weekend, almost 50,000kms and they both failed at exactly the same time.
If nothing, Motorrad builds consistency along with the obsolescence into some things.
Both of mine stopped workin at the same time when it was still under warranty. Tech tried to reintroduce the sensors to the RDC computer. He said he could not so it must have been the computer. He was going to order the RDC but when I picked up the bike I realized both were woking again. So it could be just the sensors and the computer lost the contact and had to be coupled again. And sometimes they have difficulty coupling them. I have 08 model 88Km and still no problems.
Those Anakee 3s look more street oriented.
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Old 02-19-2013, 07:00 AM   #41
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I Talked to the guys at Adventure Design yesterday ....
The have the Anakee III in stock ... at what looks like a great price?
http://www.advdesigns.com/michelintires.html

They said they had just sold a set to a guy on a 1200GS and that he could not stop raving about how well they worked off road ... I am skeptical ... but hopeful ... looking forward to some feedback from recent adopters ....
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Old 02-19-2013, 05:11 PM   #42
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Just heard from the guy who sold me the chain and sprockets for my 800 that he gave me the 650GS parts instead. So 41/17 instead of 42/16. I'm interested in seeing how this works since I am not using the bike off-road anyway, and slightly better fuel economy would be useful.

I might just buy the 16 tooth front sprocket, in case I don't like the result. One tooth less on the back is not different enough to change IMHO.
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Old 02-19-2013, 06:06 PM   #43
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Just heard from the guy who sold me the chain and sprockets for my 800 that he gave me the 650GS parts instead. So 41/17 instead of 42/16. I'm interested in seeing how this works since I am not using the bike off-road anyway, and slightly better fuel economy would be useful.

I might just buy the 16 tooth front sprocket, in case I don't like the result. One tooth less on the back is not different enough to change IMHO.
If you are not off-roading much, I really think you will like it "as-is" ...

Note.... my last bike was a Honda XL250R ...
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If you are not off-roading much, I really think you will like it "as-is" ...

Note.... my last bike was a Honda XL250R ...
I'm off-roading quite a lot; just not using the F8 to do so. My DR650 is much better set up for that. The BMW has turned into more of a Spring and Fall ride, when I need the heated gear.
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If you are not off-roading much, I really think you will like it "as-is" ...
Got the bike out yesterday and found I really liked the new gearing a lot! Unless I plan to go offroad, and it's unlikely, I'm going to be buying the 650 sprocket set from now on.

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