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Old 02-19-2013, 10:23 AM   #27406
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Is that a one-piece crankset?
The bike in question's a department store bike with stuff added to it.

No matter what gets added to it, its still a department store bike.

I'd posit that the person in question hasn't ridden enough AL bikes to make a determination of 'how AL rides.' See Aurelius' experience for a recent example.

I can tell you from personal experience that one AL bike doesn't ride the same as another, even within categories. IOW a Cannondale is going to ride differently than a Specialized which will be different from a Vitus which will be different from an Airplane frame, etc

You wanna make a frankenbike? At least start with something worth riding.

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Old 02-19-2013, 10:24 AM   #27407
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yes, btut hat is getting swapped out with a BMX conversion to a square taper, and have a new crankset already on the way....
Seems like you're going to a lot of trouble for just a little gain. Personally, I'd rather start with something worth putting money into - but, it's a free country and obviously, it's your time & money so have fun with your project! Keep us updated.
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:49 PM   #27408
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So I was watching the weather radar and it looked like another band of rain was coming my way. So I hopped on the trainer for the 2nd time this year.

If I'd thought about it a little more, I woulda ridden my quiet trainer so I could hear the dialog in the first season of Game of Thrones. As it was, I had to make do with fan noise.

So what happened? Nothing. No rain. ...and now the sun's peeking out from under the clouds.

Aaah well. C'est la vie! At least I did something!

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Old 02-19-2013, 02:58 PM   #27409
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The bike in question's a department store bike with stuff added to it.

No matter what gets added to it, its still a department store bike.

I'd posit that the person in question hasn't ridden enough AL bikes to make a determination of 'how AL rides.' See Aurelius' experience for a recent example.

I can tell you from personal experience that one AL bike doesn't ride the same as another, even within categories. IOW a Cannondale is going to ride differently than a Specialized which will be different from a Vitus which will be different from an Airplane frame, etc

You wanna make a frankenbike? At least start with something worth riding.

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i just retired my trek 3900 with 15,000 miles on it... yes, the frame i am working off of is a department store bike... BUT.... i dont really care what anyone thinks, i gonna make it work... also i had 5 years of riding on a schwinn 754, so i do know how an AL bike rides... in addition to that i have done a good bit of riding my brothers Dawes..... i prefer the chro-mo frame that i am riding now...

and i know that not all frames ride the same.... then if you really understand this, you would understand why i am sticking with the frame i have....BECAUSE i like the way it rides.... i had the frame, it WORKS, why try another frame that i most likely wont like? then i am SOL on getting the money back that i would have spent on a $400 frame.... just because a frame isnt worth something to YOU, doesnt mean it isnt worth something to ME... you would probably think that both of my dual sports are worthless too....a kawi ke100 and an f11....technology from the late 60s... but i like em....LOL
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:02 PM   #27410
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Seems like you're going to a lot of trouble for just a little gain. Personally, I'd rather start with something worth putting money into - but, it's a free country and obviously, it's your time & money so have fun with your project! Keep us updated.
for this is more that i like the challenge of proving folks wrong... theres serious merit to some of the frames of department store bikes.... this frame started out as an MTB frame...../.geo was all wrong for mtb so i threw a set of 27" rims i had laying around on it and it worked great... i liked the ride better than my old 754, so i sold the 754 and used the money to get some better wheels and brakes.... this year i am getting the crankset and shifters and stuff... i only have about 250 into the whole thing, and 99% could be transferred to a new frame down the road... so if i do want to upgrade the frame, i can just strip it and get a frame and build off the stuff i already have...
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:02 PM   #27411
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Whatever dood. If it floats your boat, have at it.

Just don't expect the nice stuff to work on that thing. I'd say 'go buy an older SL steel bike' but you don't want to hear that either.

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Old 02-19-2013, 03:04 PM   #27412
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oh and the biggest reason i am using the frame i am....LOL i got it for FREE.....
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:07 PM   #27413
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Whatever dood. If it floats your boat, have at it.

Just don't expect the nice stuff to work on that thing. I'd say 'go buy an older SL steel bike' but you don't want to hear that either.

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and by nice stuff you mean? i am not going to like Sora components....im just updating it to more modern stuff...integrated shifters instead of the head tube mounted ones, newer crank since the one piece limits my pedal selection SEVERELY...LOL no one makes decent half inch thread pedals... im not building a race bike here.... im just having fun turning a piece of shit bike into something rideable....LOL
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Old 02-19-2013, 06:14 PM   #27414
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im just having fun turning a piece of shit bike into something rideable....LOL
I like that idea!
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Old 02-19-2013, 07:11 PM   #27415
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I like that idea!
and the kicker is i will be taking it on a 450 mi trip this july too....LOL one week of riding, and tenting... only support is a is a gear truck so i dont have to run panniers...
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Old 02-20-2013, 01:20 AM   #27416
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i am kinda set on having a frankenbike...its sorta my nature... i like making things that the majority of folks say cant be done, work....LOL as for the spacer issue, i already ordered a 130mm adjustable reach stem... the bars are a bit high for my liking currently, because of the stem mount shifters... i ordered a set of brake lever shifters last night so that solves that issue as well...and i didnt want the carbon for big hits, i wanted it for the cut down on road vibes...i am planning a 450mi one week ride this summer, and dont want numb hands...LOL

and a side note.... i dont know what it is that i like, but i prefer a chro-mo road frame over aluminum... i cant put a finger on it, but i dislike the feel of my brothers aluminum frame bike, but love my chro-mo that i have built up....

that bike looks like it has a heavy steel ashtabula crankset, like you'd find on an old schwinn? why in dog's name would you put a carbon fork on that?!? get a nice old school cromo steel fork with thin curved tips, or something like that.
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Old 02-20-2013, 02:14 AM   #27417
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Well I am back on a bike fat and out of shape, but there is hope, since I live in Oregon I bought fenders for my road bike , yes there are some really nice ones made , now if i could go to sleep
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:42 AM   #27418
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that bike looks like it has a heavy steel ashtabula crankset, like you'd find on an old schwinn? why in dog's name would you put a carbon fork on that?!? get a nice old school cromo steel fork with thin curved tips, or something like that.
As for the cranks those are gone...BB conversion came in the mail, waiting on my sunlite cranks to show up... As for the carbon vs chromo fork? Why NOT? LOL I had an old scwinn worlds chro-mo, with the chro-mo fork...front tire moved alot more than i felt comfortable with.... And besides i got the fork for under $50 shipped....
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:49 AM   #27419
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@BB: dood. There's at least one guy in this thread that started riding in the 70s, I started riding in the 80s. Ya think we *may* just know what we're talking about?!

If you're going to throw money at something, throw money at something worth throwing money at. If you like steel, go find an old SL or 531 frame. If you're touring on it, go find an old touring frame. They're out there for inexpensive.

If you're not willing to listen to the answers, why ask the questions?

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Old 02-20-2013, 07:23 AM   #27420
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If you're going to throw money at something, throw money at something worth throwing money at. If you like steel, go find an old SL or 531 frame. If you're touring on it, go find an old touring frame. They're out there for inexpensive.
He's not the first person to show up in this thread with a turd polishing agenda. I remember this happening recently with somebody else. Some guys want to pump 8 grand into a KLR.
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