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Old 02-25-2013, 05:09 PM   #1666
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* Flug,I read this real slow because comprehending is one of my weak points.

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Old 02-25-2013, 05:15 PM   #1667
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So if we use that same train of thought, Stewart may just as well have let RV pass him. He had nothing to gain by beating him..............other than beating him!
I think you guys are wrong in saying that these guys are riding conservatively. There is nothing conservative about it and they are probably riding at 95+% all the time. They are just so smooth that they can absolutely fly without looking out of control. We can't comprehend their skill and smoothness, so it's pointless to speculate here.
Just watch the start of the main. JS and RV (and everyone else) were each going all out and RV almost got punted off the track in the first turn. If that's conservative, then I am

Podiums are all that James has left at this point. I agree the riders are riding at 95% this year. Last year they where riding at 110% and look how that ended.

Read the article by JT$ in Racer X, pretty much explains it all.
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Old 02-25-2013, 05:23 PM   #1668
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A lot of the comments you guys are making is why I enjoy the outdoors series more than Supercross. They is a lot less holding back outdoors. If your faster, you can pass everywhere. Watching riders hang it out outdoors is pure speed vs terrain. Just so many more line options.
To go quick on a Supercross track you need to go faster than the next guy in short bursts. The course is limiting when this can happen. Its so much about timing and precision

+1. That's why Alessi and Bagget do so good in MX but not SX. It takes so much more throttle control in SX and AX. MX its just pin it to win it and whoever is the fastest with the most stamina wins.
SX is all about starts and not crashing or even bobbles, its literally racing for 10ths of seconds now.
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Old 02-25-2013, 05:35 PM   #1669
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Podiums are all that James has left at this point.
I wonder has the math been done? meaning if Stewart wins out assuming #1, #18, #5 keep making the podium for the most part, I'd be curious to know should Stewart be stellar for the rest of the year how far up the standings he can get.
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Old 02-25-2013, 05:49 PM   #1670
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I wonder has the math been done? meaning if Stewart wins out assuming #1, #18, #5 keep making the podium for the most part, I'd be curious to know should Stewart be stellar for the rest of the year how far up the standings he can get.
He is not mathematically out, but the top six would all need to have a couple no-score rounds for him to get close.

1 18 David Millsaps Murrieta, CA 174 25 20 18 22 22 25 22 20
2 1 Ryan Villopoto Seattle, WA 152 5 22 25 25 13 15 25 22
3 5 Ryan Dungey Belle Plaine, MN 148 20 13 15 20 25 20 20 15
4 41 Trey Canard Shawnee, OK 135 22 16 22 18 14 13 14 16
5 22 Chad Reed Dade City, FL 127 18 18 20 9 16 16 18 12
6 51 Justin Barcia Pinetta, FL 116 14 25 1 1 20 22 15 18
7 29 Andrew Short Smithville, TX 102 15 12 14 15 15 12 12 7
8 7 James Stewart Haines City, FL 100 13 14 9 2 18 18 1 25

Even Dungey and Villopoto are going to have a tough time catching Milsaps if Davey just stays steady.
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Old 02-25-2013, 05:59 PM   #1671
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He is not mathematically out, but the top six would all need to have a couple no-score rounds for him to get close.

1 18 David Millsaps Murrieta, CA 174 25 20 18 22 22 25 22 20
2 1 Ryan Villopoto Seattle, WA 152 5 22 25 25 13 15 25 22
3 5 Ryan Dungey Belle Plaine, MN 148 20 13 15 20 25 20 20 15
4 41 Trey Canard Shawnee, OK 135 22 16 22 18 14 13 14 16
5 22 Chad Reed Dade City, FL 127 18 18 20 9 16 16 18 12
6 51 Justin Barcia Pinetta, FL 116 14 25 1 1 20 22 15 18
7 29 Andrew Short Smithville, TX 102 15 12 14 15 15 12 12 7
8 7 James Stewart Haines City, FL 100 13 14 9 2 18 18 1 25

Even Dungey and Villopoto are going to have a tough time catching Milsaps if Davey just stays steady.
should Stewart go on a tear I don't think he has to worry about catching anyone but the present top 3. I like Canard as much as the next guy but I don't see him setting the world on fire at this point we've seen 8 races and he doesn't seem to have what he needs to start making podiums especially if Stewart starts standing on them routinely.
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Old 02-25-2013, 06:01 PM   #1672
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If Stewart was faster than you, just say so!!

I have never seen so many guys pontificate on how sweet second place is!
If you know you are out matched at a particular race, settleing for second is the smart thing to do. There was no need in pushing harder to pass Stewart if he's not in the championship hunt. RV left Atlanta with a couple more points than DM and in one piece ready to fight another day. This is how championships are won.
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Old 02-25-2013, 06:02 PM   #1673
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should Stewart go on a tear I don't think he has to worry about catching anyone but the present top 3. I like Canard as much as the next guy but I don't see him setting the world on fire at this point we've seen 8 races and he doesn't seem to have what he needs to start making podiums especially if Stewart starts standing on them routinely.
the way I see it if Stewart won at Dallas he might be in 5th.
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Old 02-25-2013, 06:15 PM   #1674
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the way I see it if Stewart won at Dallas he might be in 5th.
And he would have won it by the looks of how he was riding.
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Old 02-25-2013, 07:01 PM   #1675
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the way I see it if Stewart won at Dallas he might be in 5th.
But not.

To get a good take on these guys attitude, or at least one of them, Villipoto, watch the Ryan Villipoto story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t64jYxL0rI0

Even though each of them has a slightly different story there has to be a lot in common.


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Old 02-25-2013, 07:21 PM   #1676
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But not.

To get a good take on these guys attitude, or at least one of them, Villipoto, watch the Ryan Villipoto story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t64jYxL0rI0

Even though each of them has a slightly different story there has to be a lot in common.


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already saw it, much better on youtube without the commercials. not sure what it has to do with Stewart still having a very very long shot to win the 2013 title?
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Old 02-25-2013, 07:51 PM   #1677
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Old 02-25-2013, 07:53 PM   #1678
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:49 AM   #1679
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already saw it, much better on youtube without the commercials. not sure what it has to do with Stewart still having a very very long shot to win the 2013 title?

Nothing. Just a look at the racer attitude after a few years at that level. I think probably a to some extent a shared attitude.

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Old 02-26-2013, 08:55 AM   #1680
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