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Old 02-25-2013, 04:59 AM   #1
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Ocala National Forest - dirt roads

Hello People.

My next trip has me traveling from Pennsylvania to Florida to camp and ride the Ocala National Forest - March 2013.

Does anyone want to comment on what dirt roads my R1200GS can handle?

I'll have the stock tires for the 1800 miles of concrete and I don't have to mention how difficult this bike is in the SAND (even with knobbies). I've seen riders much better in the dirt than me bury their bikes - not a pleasant option since I'll be traveling on my own for most of the trip.
I don't want to get stuck and have to walk out.

Stay off the OHV trails? Or are they passable with a big bike?
Are most of the dirts roads marked? Or will I need my TOPO GPS?

Anyone have a FAVORITE destination to suggest or dirt roads I might like?

How about the best place to eat in Daytona Beach?
Eat? Daytona? I might as well have started an oil / tire thread!

Thanks for the help!
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Old 02-25-2013, 05:28 AM   #2
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There is a bit, just a bit of sand in Ocala. In fact, there is dark sand, light sand, wet sand, dry sand, sneaky sand, deep sand, very deep sand and then very long runs of very deep, very sneaky, very dry sand.

Quite a variety, in fact!

Look for CADS and the sandfleas ride reports. You can see how much fun they have...
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Old 02-25-2013, 06:21 AM   #3
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Any of the roads through the forest that are easily viewable in google maps should be passable on your GS. If you can view it at the '1-mile' zoom setting, you can ride it.

The bulk of them are primarily hard-packed orange clay with a very thin layer of sand on top. Most see enough use that they don't get nasty, but there are some areas that may require a little caution.

I'd probably stay away from the road that travels the perimeter of the bombing range as it is a little deeper. Also Pipeline/09 is super hairy on the south side. Like 3rd gear WFO on my 640 hairy.

One thing to be aware of is that the numbering system you'll see in Google Maps or on Basecamp is incorrect. The FS changed the road names about 5 years ago and none of the mapping companies have picked up on it, so the signs you'll see won't jive with whatever route you plan.

Hope that helps, let us know if you have any other questions!
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Old 02-25-2013, 08:19 AM   #4
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Any of the roads through the forest that are easily viewable in google maps should be passable on your GS. If you can view it at the '1-mile' zoom setting, you can ride it.

The bulk of them are primarily hard-packed orange clay with a very thin layer of sand on top. Most see enough use that they don't get nasty, but there are some areas that may require a little caution.

I'd probably stay away from the road that travels the perimeter of the bombing range as it is a little deeper. Also Pipeline/09 is super hairy on the south side. Like 3rd gear WFO on my 640 hairy.

One thing to be aware of is that the numbering system you'll see in Google Maps or on Basecamp is incorrect. The FS changed the road names about 5 years ago and none of the mapping companies have picked up on it, so the signs you'll see won't jive with whatever route you plan.

Hope that helps, let us know if you have any other questions!
What he said. Also, if you're in town the first weekend of bike week you may want to think about the Trans-Fla. GS ride, there are ride-arounds for all the two-track that have sandy sections, keeps to the main roads. Quite doable on a big bike.
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Old 02-25-2013, 09:55 AM   #5
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Hello People.

My next trip has me traveling from Pennsylvania to Florida to camp and ride the Ocala National Forest - March 2013.

Does anyone want to comment on what dirt roads my R1200GS can handle?

I'll have the stock tires for the 1800 miles of concrete and I don't have to mention how difficult this bike is in the SAND (even with knobbies). I've seen riders much better in the dirt than me bury their bikes - not a pleasant option since I'll be traveling on my own for most of the trip.
Bring some TKC80's or have a shop in Jax put them on for you. Then ride this:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...ighlight=ocala

Read what Kaosrider is saying. If you're up to learning a bunch and making the miles, I wouldn't try to talk you out of this. The guys riding this so far are top notch guys and you will have a great time. You may(/probably) see some/(a bunch) sand. It took me a while to finally understand what sand riding requires, but Wolfgang and Waybill and Kaosrider are very helpful.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:47 PM   #6
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this has been covered pretty well here
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Old 02-25-2013, 05:21 PM   #7
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Florida S A N D

This sounds like the Florida guys have as many words for sand as the eskimos have words for snow.

Does the red sand pack down better than the....never mind, I'm going to find out for myself. And I hope it's not a surprise.

I have an extra set of rims and TKC80, but this is a 90% road trip.
The last trip out the sand was frozen - but that doesn't count.
I just don't want to get stupid stuck in sand - whatever the color.

I miss bike week by seven days... but I'll try to poach a few routes along the way.

Thanks for the info. I have my FS map out and I'm checking roads now.
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Old 02-26-2013, 08:47 AM   #8
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Oddly enough I've ridden several of the intermediate FS roads on my F 650 both with Tourances one year, then TKC 80s the next year (group rides). Never threw it down with the Tourances, but did once on the knobbies. Go figure.

Whatever tire choice, I like to air down to about 21psi (no rimlocks or I'd go a little lower). I carry a 12V compressor to air back up for highway miles
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Old 02-26-2013, 06:06 PM   #9
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Soft Tires

I will bring my air pump and let the tire squat down a little.

Thanks for the info.
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Old 03-01-2013, 07:09 AM   #10
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Do not eat the yellow sand...or the brown sand.

Don't leave coolers out in plain sight, or food unattended either. The Ocala NF area is home to many of Yogi's cousins, and they will waste no time in stealing your picnic basket.
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Old 03-01-2013, 05:26 PM   #11
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You got a free place to camp if you're coming down next weekend

We'll be at The Scrub through Monday the 11th
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Old 03-02-2013, 06:19 PM   #12
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Easter

I'll be down the week before EASTER.
About March 24th is I get out of town on time.

The welder still has my side stand - making the footprint bigger.
But I don't have any extensive mechanical projects holding me back.

Thanks for the offer.

Whats a SCRUB?
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Old 03-03-2013, 12:43 PM   #13
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I'll be down the week before EASTER.
About March 24th is I get out of town on time.

The welder still has my side stand - making the footprint bigger.
But I don't have any extensive mechanical projects holding me back.

Thanks for the offer.

Whats a SCRUB?

Since you asked, "scrub" is a type of habitat/ecosystem found throughout much of the Ocala Natl Forest and other areas in FL and the southest. Think thickets of scrub oak and some palmetto and stuff that looks like hawthorne bush to me. For the answer to The Scrub, click on the linky at the bottom of Jack Daniel's post(s). Cool place and cool folks.
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Old 03-09-2013, 05:28 PM   #14
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check your PMs
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Old 03-11-2013, 02:16 PM   #15
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Read your post on the Scrub Log this weekend
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