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Old 04-13-2012, 04:32 AM   #31
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I'm 6'2 and owned a SYM 150 since 2006 and have clocked 75,000 km this week.
I ride it 100km daily, full throttle all the way for 120km/h.
Oil & gear fluid change every 5,000km. CVT belt change every 10,000km.
Maintenance is a bit expensive here, other that than, i'm very happy especially when it rains, as my shoes are not wet.
The newer Sym 200 & 250i zoom faster and are steady at 140km/h.
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:01 AM   #32
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I had a good long test ride on a HD200 (the rear drum brake version) and thought it was a very good scooter, but had an oportunity to buy my Scarabeo instead, but if not I would have bought the Sym. Nice quality scoot.

However, for your intended use, I would strongly consider the Vespa GTS 300 as it has real nice tie down points. Strapping a scooter down securely is very difficult, but with the Vespa tie down points on the frame it looks easy-peasy.
"Canyon Dancer " handlebar Tie Down Strap works GREAT on a scooter..
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:18 PM   #33
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"Canyon Dancer " handlebar Tie Down Strap works GREAT on a scooter..
Thanks for the tip on the Canyon Dancer Bar Harnesses! I looked at their website and looks like just the ticket when tying down my scooters.
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Old 02-20-2013, 04:27 PM   #34
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My Citycom was $3495 out the door (plus another $50 to deliver 95 miles away) - this was a leftover from a boat dealer who sold scooters a few years back, but doesn't anymore - had 2 scoots left and was desperate to unload them. There are 3 SYM dealers within an hour of my house - the best deal on the new HD was a few hundred more. I figured the Citycom would work better if I ever jump on the interstate, plus it would have higher resale value.

The bike itself is pretty amazing - it's big (maybe 370 pounds, w/gas), but it has about the same get up and go as the HD200, with a slightly higher top end (82 mph indicated is as fast as I've gone). For a bigger bike (compared to my Buddy 150, for example), it's still quite nimble - all that weight doesn't seem to matter while you're moving. It feels right at home in curves (seriously, carves up any curve). Speedo seems about 3-5% optimistic at any given speed, which is pretty good for a scooter.

I saw an '09 on craigslist here for $2,900 with only 3k miles, but it sold before I could get over to look at it. For the record, mine is NOT FOR SALE!
The Citycom is a large bike for a middleweight (400 lbs curb and a 60 inch wheelbase) but that makes it a wonderful mile eater on the open road for my large six ft four plus self. I agree the cornering is outstanding. It feels better bent over in a turn than any other bike I have owned in 44 years of riding.

Mine cruises sweetly at an indicated 120 kph which is 68 mph honest . A little secret for all you Citycom riders out there. There is enough room on this bike thaat even if you are tall like me you can 'scoot' forward an inch or so and the difference in handling is astonishing. Do so and the bike will suddenly be rock solid and laser true. You can blast through wind storms and around high speed sweepers in a way that is hard to believe for a scooter.

It's like Clark Kent heading into the phone booth. It's not all day comfortable ridden like this; but it's a secret weapon when you need super handling.

I love this bike. There is nothing else scooter wise I would rather have.
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Old 02-26-2013, 01:22 AM   #35
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Sorry I can't answer that one as I let my mechanic to worry about all that detail :) Service intervals are a bit frequent at every 3,000km, in common with other SYM scooters... although I think I read somewhere SYM recently extended them across their whole range. It seems to me recommended service interval is really an almost completely arbitrary number and if you were doing your own work you could probably get away with less frequent services.
Then again if you don't ride much this might not be a major issue for you.
My Citycom has 21000 km on it and the valves need to be checked now. I know from experience that a small single will run and idle erratically with a tight valve, mine runs fine but it is starting to get a little noisy. Now that the bike is well run in I will probably get them checked every 25000 km when I replace the CVT belt. My mechanic suggested every 20,000 km was reasonable for a 250 class machine, SYM or Vespa.

If I was flogging the bike WFO frequently for long distance it would be different. I don't take it over 7000 ever and redline is Nine.
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:21 PM   #36
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I like it...

I had a chance to look an HD200 and an RV200 over today. I liked what I saw. The fit and finish looked good. The RV model caught my fancy. It fit me well and I came away with the conclusion it might be a neat scoot to put in the stable. I wish a test ride could have been taken, but the balance and feel of the scooter there in the showroom felt right. The performance of the engine, proven by the HD200, should provide a decent level of git up and go. Thinking there might be a lot of grins in that package. Considering the changes occuring in my riding habits, it looks like the RV would fill my future two wheel needs.
When the Majesty and Vulcan sell there will be some cash burning a hole in my pocket and I may go shopping.

On another note, the shop owner and I had a frank discussion about the "SYM situation". He felt good about the efforts of Alliance, the new distributor, and feels like they will continue making progress in developing support and parts availability.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:37 PM   #37
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I also rode 120 miles to look at the HD200, and found out about the RV200. No contest for me, if I were to buy a SYM, it would definitely be the RV200. The HD200 just has that Kymco People/Honda SH150i big wheeled look about it that I don't like in scooters. Part of my definition of a scooter is "small wheels"
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Old 02-28-2013, 09:48 AM   #38
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The RV200 fit me well. I'm 5;10" with a 30" inseam. The sit position is a bit more "cruiser" like than the HD. The "foot forward" position you see on the video felt very comfortable. Much like my Majesty. Actually there was a bit more room to move my feet around on the flat floor. The rise in the seat would keep a longer legged rider from stretching out as much.
If things fall into place, I may be able to give a real life report.
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Old 02-28-2013, 02:40 PM   #39
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h'mmmm, rv almost 50lbs. more than the hd. alittle heavy for 171cc's.
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Old 03-17-2013, 12:05 PM   #40
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Just seeing this so not sure if it still matters to OP. bought a new hd200 in 2007. Have almost 10k on it. Short answer is go for it.

When time comes, I would definitely get another one. Reliable, very low maintenance and so utilitarian and practical, especially with a givi case. Enough power for two up around town and the bigger wheels over a vespa are much more comfortable especially for streets of NYC. Not to mention, it's been knocked over in which case, no worries. Just some scratches. If it was a Vespa, it would probably would have been dented...steel vs hard plastic. Build quality is good. Haven't had issues about parts because other than general stuff which is pretty standard for scoots e.g. Filters, brake pads, etc the bike has been pretty reliable so there hasn't been any need. One of the reasons I picked the sym over the scarabeo was concern for reliability after reading some reviews

I also ride a GS and a Triumph Bonneville but for getting around locally, the sym is my go to. So all in all, I highly redo the sym depending on your needs. Good luck and feel free to PM with questions
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Old 03-17-2013, 09:12 PM   #41
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I've been riding motorcycles all my life. Current ride is a 2012 DR650SE. As I'm 5'8" I've had to lower it (close friend is a DR enduro rider and knew exactly how to do it) and I also bought the factory gel seat (1" lower than stock seat). However, it's still a bit of a reach. As most of my riding is around town (Bisbee, AZ) with an occasional trip to nearby towns (no interstates), I am coming to the conclusion that a SYM 200 HD EVO might be just the ticket.

I'm going to look at a red 2012 Tuesday. It's nearby and the price is firm at $2295, which seems reasonable considering the original price. It has just a few thousand miles on it. I like the idea of being able to just step into it and sit down. Maintenance seems like a no-brainer. And, out here in the high desert a liquid-cooled engine isn't a bad idea.
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Old 03-17-2013, 11:06 PM   #42
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You'll be surprised how a twist and go scooter, especially one with a great engine like the HD200, will get with the program off the line. I am a big fan of this scooter. Across town or across the state, it'll do the job unruffled.
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:42 PM   #43
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Rode the red one today. I was initially surprised by the quick (in comparison to a DR650) steering but soon figured it out and relaxed. Goes right on down the road at an easy 65mph and obviously would go faster, but this road is 55mph and the Arizona Highway Patrol uses Highway 92 apparently as a training area for newbies. Beautiful red paint and flawless fit and finish. I like the 16" wheels, much more pothole friendly than Vespa sized wheels. Also, my old Shoei R200 full face helmet fit under the seat! But I'd not put it there as I've never heard of anyone stealing a helmet down here. Rather use it for storage. I'm going to make him a cash offer tomorrow.
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Old 03-19-2013, 10:52 PM   #44
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It really is a great scooter. There is also a good SYM forum you could google. And a website with maintenance info called Fire Drake, here:

http://www.jeffs-hotsauces.com/firedrakehome.htm
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:52 PM   #45
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I bought the red SYM HD 200 EVO yesterday morning from a man who had meticulously maintained it. Hereford is about 25 miles from Bisbee, where I live, and Highway 92 is a fine, smooth two-lane road and I found myself cruising along at 75mph several times without realizing it. Never felt as though I were pushing it.

Unlike an earlier poster who didn't like the larger 16" wheels, I chose the SYM precisely for that reason. The larger wheels seem to add stability and they are not as affected by chuck holes. As far as aesthetics go, it's a very handsome machine.

Birdmove, thanks. I joined the SYM forum. If you read there, I bought gitsum's HD 200.

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