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Old 02-28-2013, 04:18 PM   #31
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It depends on what the check-in agreement was, right? Like if you're out there and you say, "I'll check in every day. If you don't hear from me for three days, send Blackwater," then Mom better fucking send Blackwater. But if you're out there and you say, "Mom! Leave me alone! I'll check in when I want!!!" and you're over 18, then Mom is SOL... but she's still Mom, and if she wants to pay Blackwater out of her own pocket, then she can, right up to and including having Blackwater grab her kid by the back of the neck and say, "Listen to your mother, asshole."

-says I, a dad of 2 kids who like to do adventures like their dad; two kids who know that if they don't check in on time, either I or a fucking battalion of ex Marines will find them.
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Old 03-01-2013, 03:36 PM   #32
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:07 PM   #33
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Yeah I bet my money they where so fucked up on ayahausca it took them a week to walk straight again. As the story Mark posted said, "doing hippie things" screwing with Native drugs and such, seen it all too much before down in the Amazon Rainforest basin, lot of the young backpacker type traveling pot smoking crowd looking for that mythical high losing track of time and place
What a bunch of BS, that parent ought to be charged for the so called search and rescue operation If they are going to be out in the jungle screwing off with or without doing drugs they ought to at least let their loved ones back home know what's up instead of bringing this nanny society shit down to SA. What a waste.
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Old 03-02-2013, 05:58 AM   #34
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Yeah I bet my money they where so fucked up on ayahausca it took them a week to walk straight again. As the story Mark posted said, "doing hippie things" screwing with Native drugs and such, seen it all too much before down in the Amazon Rainforest basin, lot of the young backpacker type traveling pot smoking crowd looking for that mythical high losing track of time and place
What a bunch of BS, that parent ought to be charged for the so called search and rescue operation If they are going to be out in the jungle screwing off with or without doing drugs they ought to at least let their loved ones back home know what's up instead of bringing this nanny society shit down to SA. What a waste.
Paul Theroux has a book out about getting that mythical high. Blinding Light, I think. It's on my shelf and I read it but I didn't like it and I never liked the euro-and-american-trash who travel to get high or drunk or both and stuff even though we're not that much different and maybe I'd be like them if drugs had an affect on me that I liked but mostly they just make me puke.

I have a friend who works in Public Relations and I swear to Dog she's paranoid and it's people like her who worry way too much about what things look like and it's people like her who with their advanced degrees end up writing public policy, like the one that says that if you're and American and you're reported missing then the US State Department will do it's best to find your sorry ass no matter what you're doing.

About twenty years ago, an American guy "disappeared" in Panama. Russ, the guy who owns the marina west of Colon, got a call from a weepy mom in Wisconsin asking "Hausmann is missing and nobody has heard from him who should we hire to find him the State Department isn't doing anything!!!" And Russ says, "He's fine, he's sitting right here and he doesn't want to talk to you in the middle of a card game."

True Story.

But there's a happy ending: Hausmann's brother ended up going down to Panama and bringing that sonofabitch back and they both brought girlfriends and the next think (twenty years ago), Wisconsin developed more of this weird Panama connection.
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Old 03-02-2013, 07:19 AM   #35
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Old 03-03-2013, 08:11 AM   #36
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I'll have to admit that it actually pisses me off when I read these "hippies lost in the jungle stories" cause I always had to work when young & spry. No time to really "get lost"! Just never had the time to run around on somebody elses dime. Certain locales collect them (San Cristobal,MX comes to mind as one) in droves & I'm left thinking well maybe I missed out on the "hippie experience" but at least I had a great work ethic which shows well in our kids.
Yeh, its true that many with advanced degrees run everything & write public policy but for me the sad part is that far too many are lawyers/ivy league types that lack street creds in the world of work sense, not just that they're well educated-I know cause I'm both educated & have the what I call a "dirty fingernail" work ethic! If your one of those people that holds politicians in high esteem and thinks we ought to name our bridges ,roads & bldgs,industrial parks(you name it) after them, well your just not in my zone!
This notion of the guvmnt looking for people brings to mind the rescue crews we keep in place all over the USA to go get people that are risk takers. We have them in my area which is a "mecca" of sorts for rock climbers. They come here from all over and fall off cliffs all the time. A few are high/drunk campers that walk over a cliff at night, while others start at the bottom & have skill. I'll admitt it certainly is a little cold to call their mommas & say come and get the body. Read about Yosemite and the climbers we are paying to help out there.
Too bad ADV MC riders don't get the same come & get me help(nothing against ambulance people)?
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Old 03-03-2013, 08:25 AM   #37
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Too bad ADV MC riders don't get the same come & get me help(nothing against ambulance people)?
Sounds like SPOT to me

I think it would be hard to know when to really hit the help button, having it there makes me think too many would hit it before they really try to help themselves. I don't carry one for this reason, I live with my choices. SPOT probably ain't worth of damn in the middle of SA anyway

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Old 03-03-2013, 08:46 AM   #38
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Interesting reply Kantuckid. I'm only 62 and still one of hippie kids. I've worked hard all my life, had a lot of fun on the way, got lost a few times on some fun drugs, raised great responsible kids and now I have grandkids and last night my 60 year old wife told me she was ready to ride south of the border one more time and this time for 6 months and she rides her own.
What I found interesting about your reply was your bi-line
'If I had my life to live over,I'd dare to make more mistakes next time...I'd relax,I'd limber up.I'd be sillier than this trip, take fewer things seriously, I would take more chances... take more trips...climb more mountains...swim more rivers...eat more ice cream'
So when you bark at someone, read your bi-line and limber up.
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Old 03-03-2013, 09:24 AM   #39
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Let it be known I don't have a problem with drugs unless your mommy is supposed to be finding out where you are or the person is totally out of control!

I was amazed how many people I came across that where out looking for some crazy ass concoction that helps them see the spirit world or the other side. I think anyone would start seeing the spirit world after shitting and vomiting themselves for days that's kinda what happens to anyone when you get severely dehydrated sick To each their own.

I'd still like to know what those two where up to out in the jungle for 15 days...we never get to hear the ending.
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Old 03-03-2013, 10:48 AM   #40
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Let it be known I don't have a problem with drugs unless your mommy is supposed to be finding out where you are or the person is totally out of control!

I was amazed how many people I came across that where out looking for some crazy ass concoction that helps them see the spirit world or the other side. I think anyone would start seeing the spirit world after shitting and vomiting themselves for days that's kinda what happens to anyone when you get severely dehydrated sick To each their own.

I'd still like to know what those two where up to out in the jungle for 15 days...we never get to hear the ending.
The eurotrash and hippies that piss me off aren't the smart ones like Rick, they're the dumb ones that bring trouble into the hotel or the hostel because on their back is a great big MARK that says to the gangsters and cops COME FUCK ME UP.

I've been a rescuer. Sometimes it was extremely rewarding. I quit doing it when I found myself wanting to leave the dumb motherfuckers where they lay.

SPOT sucks. Read the fine print carefully and the insurance policy is actually worthless.

As for what the hippies were doing on the river for two weeks? I can imagine... all kinds of fun things, from helping somebody with a humanitarian project (hippies do humanitarian projects too) to helping somebody with a fucked-up project (read The Mosquito Coast, also by Paul Theroux, or watch the movie), or maybe they were just kind of high, kind-of bird watching, kind of relaxing in a hammock. Or maybe they did finally find that magic concoction!

Which reminds me that I need to get my ass down to Panama pretty soon. My hammock is calling me...
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Old 03-03-2013, 12:05 PM   #41
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Throttlemeister, I'm looking forward to you coming and finding me & my girlfriend somewhere lost in the dark forest, maybe in a hand dug whale near Semuc Champey.
Will you and Bman come to our rescue? We could have beer and parilla after you save us from the whale.
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Old 03-04-2013, 05:27 AM   #42
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Interesting reply Kantuckid. I'm only 62 and still one of hippie kids. I've worked hard all my life, had a lot of fun on the way, got lost a few times on some fun drugs, raised great responsible kids and now I have grandkids and last night my 60 year old wife told me she was ready to ride south of the border one more time and this time for 6 months and she rides her own.
What I found interesting about your reply was your bi-line
'If I had my life to live over,I'd dare to make more mistakes next time...I'd relax,I'd limber up.I'd be sillier than this trip, take fewer things seriously, I would take more chances... take more trips...climb more mountains...swim more rivers...eat more ice cream'
So when you bark at someone, read your bi-line and limber up.
I'm pretty limber , thank you . I just have to admitt that when I was on my way to work in KS for many years as I watched the hippies camping along the hwys & on their way to CO & on west and wondered what part of the load of society they were pulling? Thats not to say that many didn't go on to lead productive lives and not a drain on the rest of us that chose to work . My byline is another guys words that sound good in that he would have traveled more & lacking the ability to ask a dead guy to change his thoughts I'll leave them intact. I guess I need to take out the make more mistakes, be silly part, be less serious part?
FWIW, as a rider since 1963 I've had my share of fooling around in certain ways. Based on previous life activities I'm quite happy to be around for my GK's too.
When I was a kid I was around lots of hobos as lived near RR yards & frequented the river nearby where we set lines,fished & hunted. They lived off the fat of the land pretty much like hippies in the 1960's, only working as needed to get by move on. Enjoy your trip south, w'eve already been down there once this winter. My 63 year old wife doesn't ride a MC but likes her mtn bike. Also pretty handy with a hoe! Hillbillys tend to be "work brickle"-if an old hippie understands such language?
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Throttlemeister, I'm looking forward to you coming and finding me & my girlfriend somewhere lost in the dark forest, maybe in a hand dug whale near Semuc Champey.
Will you come to our rescue? We could have beer and parilla after you save us from the whale.
Sure I'm always looking for my next Moby Dick and I like beer and parrilla(Spanish def. only) very much and Semuc Champey is a real nice setting
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Old 03-04-2013, 12:30 PM   #44
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It depends on what the check-in agreement was, right? Like if you're out there and you say, "I'll check in every day. If you don't hear from me for three days, send Blackwater," then Mom better fucking send Blackwater. But if you're out there and you say, "Mom! Leave me alone! I'll check in when I want!!!" and you're over 18, then Mom is SOL... but she's still Mom, and if she wants to pay Blackwater out of her own pocket, then she can, right up to and including having Blackwater grab her kid by the back of the neck and say, "Listen to your mother, asshole."

-says I, a dad of 2 kids who like to do adventures like their dad; two kids who know that if they don't check in on time, either I or a fucking battalion of ex Marines will find them.
You've travelled extensively, how many times have you counted on an internet connection and did not find one, none the less a phone to call home?

What if they expected to find a way to communicate and could not once they arrived at their destination?

It was a stupid knee jerk reaction on the mother's part, nothing more.
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Old 03-04-2013, 12:56 PM   #45
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Well we can tell yo not the baby momma!Mine learned to handle it and my wife as well. The early part of Iraq kept us both in a tizzy what with modern 24/7 cable news that would say"helo down" then not a word sometimes for days as to which model or the who part.
I read "well" sp? not "whale" but the whale thing works toward a better storyline huh?
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