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Old 03-07-2013, 08:09 AM   #2311
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On an ST. And they still didn't sell.
Good point. Although I know a lot of people who have Duc ST's, and they really like them. And quite a few people who wish Duc still made them and would buy one if they did. If I was looking at a sport-tourer, the Duc St and the MOTUS would be by far my leading contenders, and for pretty much the same reasons. For this, although the MOTUS is much higher in price, I think it has an advantage in *not* having the baggage of an established brand name. Ducati's efforts I think were severely hampered by the fact that it is strongly perceived as a sportbike company, and people who wanted a touring-capable bike simply didn't think of or look at the brand in the first place, and thus never evaluated the ST as a viable choice.

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Old 03-07-2013, 08:09 AM   #2312
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Doing an IB(or another form of LD rally) isn't to show that "if you buy one you can too", it's to prove that the engine/chassis is solid. Even if they just ride it around a circle track for 24 hours straight. Even better do this with it - http://www.cycleworld.com/2012/08/24...-speed-record/

Really prove the motor. Do something bold. It is the American style to go bold or go home.


Ok, I agree. How about you let them do that when they decide.
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Old 03-07-2013, 08:14 AM   #2313
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On an ST. And they still didn't sell.
Prudhoe Bay to Key west: Multistrada
San Francisco to New York: ST4
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Old 03-07-2013, 08:16 AM   #2314
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You are a new motorcycle manufacturer at Barber and you won't make a video going around that track?
Of course I would! But, I'd also balance that with a touring event.
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Old 03-07-2013, 08:16 AM   #2315
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Prudhoe Bay to Key west: Multistrada
San Francisco to New York: ST4
More than those. He put about 225K on the ST4 chasing records, and took several. He then got an ST4s, but was less successful with that one. Later he used a 1098 modified to carry hard bags.

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Old 03-07-2013, 08:17 AM   #2316
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More than those. He put about 225K on the ST4 chasing records, and took several. He then got an ST4s, but was less successful with that one. Later he used a 1098 modified to carry hard bags.

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Yeah. I was just trying to point out that it wasn't just an ST that he rode in the events.
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Old 03-07-2013, 12:04 PM   #2317
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Ok, I agree. How about you let them do that when they decide.
How about they stop hyping it so hard if they aren't ready to go forward? How about giving the dealers the real info instead of blowing smoke up their butts, having them advertise Motus, only to have nothing to sell customers?

I agree, certainly let them decide, it's their company. Right now it's all flash and no sales. That's got to be expensive.
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Old 03-07-2013, 12:41 PM   #2318
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The angles are not directly comparable, but the idea is there.

The Motus bodywork is feel-the-breeze.
That's not a bad thing.

I've had a few bikes with fairings and tall windscreens (Guzzi Stelvio, BMW R1100 GS and HD Ultra) and have to say everyone of them buffeted me so badly that they were deafening and uncomfortable to be on for long distances. I did LDs anyway.

Flipside, I've taken naked Buells, HDs and BMWs (no fairing and windscreens) from Texas to places like Alaska, Panama and Newfoundland routinely doing 600-1300 miles each day dependining on my itinerary and ability to find open fuel stops. Never dealt with buffeting issues and having damn good gear to protect me from the elements is all I ever needed.

A half faired and short windscreened BMW (R1100S) was the best of the bikes I've toured on. Lots of 800+ mile days on it up til I sold it at 160,000 miles and the whole of North America. Decent aeros, "just enough" protection and good looks. Getting home to Houston from San Diego twice and Ft. Collins once in a single sitting proves it can be done and comfortably. If it wasn't comfotable and fatiguing, I'd have obviously broken the runs down to 3 days. The R has also seen a number of track days including at Barber.

Did San Diego to Houston in one sitting last year on the little Ninja 1000.

I'm not an IBA member. Just a guy who likes to tour far away places with limited vacation time so I get to places as quickly as possible then get back as quickly as possible and not always on the slab..

So, any manufacturer who want to pass their bike off as sport tourers should prove it can take non-stop pounding. So extreme durability testing in the shittiest weather is imperative because, without fail, most of my vacations ar riddled with shitty weather.
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Old 03-07-2013, 01:23 PM   #2319
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How about they stop hyping it so hard if they aren't ready to go forward? How about giving the dealers the real info instead of blowing smoke up their butts, having them advertise Motus, only to have nothing to sell customers?

I agree, certainly let them decide, it's their company. Right now it's all flash and no sales. That's got to be expensive.
Where are they doing all of this hyping?
I think they're being fairly invisible.
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Old 03-07-2013, 02:50 PM   #2320
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The Motus bodywork is feel-the-breeze.
I must be doing something wrong by LD riding my Buell

I like feeling the wind personally ..... It is like what X1 stated, its how the air moves around you that makes a huge difference in comfort !
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Old 03-07-2013, 04:25 PM   #2321
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Where are they doing all of this hyping?
I think they're being fairly invisible.
I was wondering the same thing. Other than this forum, in fact other than this thread, I haven't heard boo about them...
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Old 03-07-2013, 05:40 PM   #2322
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Where are they doing all of this hyping?
I think they're being fairly invisible.
NY Times

Face Book

Claiming to be ready for production

2011 when they seem to have had only the prototypes

July 2012 - Staff of THREE, but lots of dreams

Cycle World - Oct '12
Motorcyclist - Oct '12
Hot Rod - Sept '11
All About Bikes - June '11
Motorcyclist - June '11
Cycle World - June '11
Rider - June '11
Auto Week - April '11

And on and on. HERE

They keep talking about doing it, maybe they should STFU and actually make some bikes.

Been watching these guys since '10 and nothing yet. As I said before, last year their 'dealers' were promoting them as a real deal that was coming out and would be on the showroom in '12. Now they don't even have the word 'Motus" on their web sites in many cases.
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Old 03-07-2013, 06:53 PM   #2323
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That's not much hype.
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Old 03-07-2013, 06:56 PM   #2324
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Rest assured folks...Motus has every intent to test the bike in the real world.

Test riders have been arranged and endurance testing will begin in around April.

That's all for now...
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Old 03-07-2013, 07:04 PM   #2325
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Rest assured folks...Motus has every intent to test the bike in the real world.

Test riders have been arranged and endurance testing will begin in around April.

That's all for now...
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