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03-09-2013, 09:04 AM
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Gnarly Adventurer
Joined: Aug 2011
Location: Crawlorado
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has any one installed the grey water pump seal
Has any one had any trouble putting the new GREY teflon seal on the water pump shaft??? did you need any special tools? i searched here and the o.c halls of wisdom, i can not not find what to do.
the newer seal way to stiff and can not slip over the shaft even wtih grease and tape. thank you 
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03-09-2013, 09:26 AM
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Gnarly Adventurer
Joined: Aug 2011
Location: Crawlorado
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ah ha found this one http://www.ktm950.info/how/Orange%20..._overhaul.html
looks like i need to make a tool or try to find one of those.
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03-09-2013, 11:01 AM
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Gnarly Adventurer
Joined: Mar 2012
Location: Portland OR
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I just did it this week, no issues, i used the tape trick and it popped right on. I used wheel bearing grease on it..
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03-09-2013, 06:06 PM
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let's keep going...
Joined: May 2008
Location: West-By-God Virginia
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Coolant is the proper lubricant for water pump seals, and it does make it slippery! The factory shaft/seal tool makes this job SO much easier, and without the fear of catching an edge. It also packs right in with your new spare seal & shaft in the tool kit you carry on trips
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03-09-2013, 08:38 PM
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Gnarly Adventurer
Joined: Jun 2012
Location: Belgium
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Heat-shrink tubing does the trick.
Lube the shaft with silicone grease, put heat-shrink tube over it, all the way to the bottom. (there is a size that just fits the diameter perfectly, il measure it tmmo if needed). Leave about 5 cm over the top of the shaft. Shrink it with heat so it forms around the shaft nicely. the surface of the heatshrink wil be smooth as to a bit rough when not shrinked. Put silicone grease over the shrinked tube. Put silicone grease on the seal and slide the sucker over the shaft. I pounded it in gently with a socket and some protection. Then just pull the heat-shrink out. Et voila! No busted up o-ring.  As for the 'no grease on o-rings warning', silicone grease is safe for rubber! Quote:
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03-09-2013, 11:24 PM
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MotorcycleMayhem
Joined: Mar 2006
Location: NorthWet Washington
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a single layer of vinyl tape and silicone grease has worked for me for many installations of the grey seals.
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03-10-2013, 12:11 AM
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03-10-2013, 03:24 AM
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Beastly Adventurer
Joined: Sep 2009
Location: UK
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I have always used grease on waterpump seals. Must have done 100 KTM waterpump rebuilds and no premature failures.
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03-10-2013, 05:17 AM
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ow, my balls!
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03-10-2013, 07:41 AM
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let's keep going...
Joined: May 2008
Location: West-By-God Virginia
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Cool Beans!
I'm referring to all the factory manuals I've seen over the years when dealing with water pump seals & o-rings
It's not the seal I'm worried about per se, it's the introduction of (petroleum) grease/oils to the cooling system & seal lips. Better safe than sorry, I'm glad to hear silicone grease does the trick w/o problems  After doing half a dozen pump rebuilds w/sockets & tape, switching to the two KTM tools makes the job SO easy, and at dealer cost/+10% it was easy to add them to the collection. I take them for granted now!
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03-10-2013, 08:52 AM
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Joined: Jun 2004
Location: Logan, Utah
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Not a single joke about "grey water" ? There's something not right about this place.
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03-10-2013, 09:57 AM
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