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Old 03-10-2013, 05:27 PM   #46
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  1. Better power connector
  2. Decent lockable Rugged Mount
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Where do you find that on either the Garmin or GPSCity site?
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Old 03-10-2013, 05:28 PM   #47
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Where do you find that on either the Garmin or GPSCity site?
Dunno. I find it by looking at my gps and mount system.
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Old 03-10-2013, 05:33 PM   #48
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Your GPS shows the Oregon not having those things?
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Old 03-10-2013, 05:36 PM   #49
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Your GPS shows the Oregon not having those things?
No, Atlas Cached said it had usb only power, and the mount the Oregon uses is the same as the original Oregon as far as I can tell. It's not powered.
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Old 03-10-2013, 05:38 PM   #50
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Just to show you a few of the differences:



So to recap, the unit size is different, screen size is larger on the Montana, the Montana allows Landscape or Portrait mode orientation,
[So Does The Oregon 6x0]
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resolution is higher on the Montana, the PC interface on the Montana appears to be faster
[Oregon 6x0 is also Hi Speed USB]
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and also has NMEA
[As does the Oregon 6x0]
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(I just noticed the Oregon can be powered by AA batteries too so I removed that reference)

Now there may be some facts wrong in the specs, but it seems clear to me that the Montana is a better all-around gps if you want to use it on a motorcycle.
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If you plan to use it handheld and powered by the battery, then you can save a little weight and size by going with the Oregon.

I dunno, maybe it's just me but for $50 more, why not get the best?
When you see all the new features added to the Oregon 6x0 UI, you are going to wish it was the Montana.

I am hoping all the work that went into the Oregon 6x0 is carried over to the existing Montana in the form of a firmware update, or they get the next gen Montana to market ASAP!
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Old 03-10-2013, 05:40 PM   #51
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No, Atlas Cached said it had usb only power, and the mount the Oregon uses is the same as the original Oregon as far as I can tell. It's not powered.
Correct.
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Old 03-10-2013, 07:21 PM   #52
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I hate to sound so pessimistic about this new series but I just can't understand why Garmin persists in using the mini usb for power. All I can think is that it's intended to keep the unit from being seen as an alternative to automotive units or the Montana.
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Old 03-10-2013, 07:45 PM   #53
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I hate to sound so pessimistic about this new series but I just can't understand why Garmin persists in using the mini usb for power. All I can think is that it's intended to keep the unit from being seen as an alternative to automotive units or the Montana.
The new Oregon most certainly will not be an alternative to the nuvi or Montana series.

Unless.... they create/sell a new battery cover with ruggedized power contacts and an accompanying cradle... but I seriously doubt that.
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Old 05-12-2013, 11:57 AM   #54
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Wicked Battery pack hack

I bought the Oregon 600 and it didn't come with its "Rechargeable" battery pack which cost an extra $25 for two regular old rechargeable batteries wrapped in a metal tape. The Oregon has a button on the bottom that when pushed tells the unit to charge. I tried wrapping two batteries together and that didn't work. I then cut up a piece of really thin metal that was the tag on my Racer gloves and wala it worked. Also turns out it only works with the new Oregon USB cable only, wont charge with the old USB cable plugged in.







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Old 05-12-2013, 12:11 PM   #55
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I am amazed that some people will buy a >$400 USD GPSr, and then circumvent integral safety mechanisms to save $25USD?

I do not advise this behavior, but it's your GPSr, so enjoy!
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Old 05-12-2013, 09:29 PM   #56
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I am amazed that some people will buy a >$400 USD GPSr, and then circumvent integral safety mechanisms to save $25USD?

I do not advise this behavior, but it's your GPSr, so enjoy!
You can look from another angle: why Garmin didn't sell it with a rechargeable battery? It would be less than $25 for them and for us.

Anyway, if it only has USB, it won't work. I have the Oregon 450 and it is a pain to get it to stay powered when riding off road. Even with gorilla tape around the upside down usb connector.

It just looks wrong. Bottom line: as someone already mentioned here, Garmin doesn't want you to use this GPS on your motorcycle. They want you to buy the Montana and the 350.

And for what, $50 difference (minus the battery?), it does not make sense to buy the Oregon for a motorcycle application.

But I will wait for the next generation Montana.

Is there a Wyoming?
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Old 05-12-2013, 09:35 PM   #57
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You can look from another angle: why Garmin didn't sell it with a rechargeable battery? It would be less than $25 for them and for us.
They do!

The Battery pack is standard with the Oregon 650/650t ;)

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Anyway, if it only has USB, it won't work. I have the Oregon 450 and it is a pain to get it to stay powered when riding off road. Even with gorilla tape around the upside down usb connector.

It just looks wrong. Bottom line: as someone already mentioned here, Garmin doesn't want you to use this GPS on your motorcycle. They want you to buy the Montana and the 350.

And for what, $50 difference (minus the battery?), it does not make sense to buy the Oregon for a motorcycle application.
I agree, the Oregon 6xx is not a good choice for road navigation.

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But I will wait for the next generation Montana.

Is there a Wyoming?
I am also waiting, eagerly!
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Old 05-12-2013, 10:22 PM   #58
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I am amazed that some people will buy a >$400 USD GPSr, and then circumvent integral safety mechanisms to save $25USD?

I do not advise this behavior, but it's your GPSr, so enjoy!
It's virtually a ticking time bomb now!
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Old 05-13-2013, 10:13 AM   #59
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REI has the Oregon 450t for $199 right now.
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REI has the Oregon 450t for $199 right now.
The 450T is not one of the 'New Oregon' series. It's an 'Old Oregon'.
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