ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Riding > Regional forums > Pacific Northwet - Where it's green. And wet.
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 03-10-2013, 11:06 AM   #31
Imachimper
Newer than Noob
 
Imachimper's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Location: Camano Island, Washington
Oddometer: 129
The Elger Bay Grocery on Camano still has 92 Ethanol free on Friday 3-8-13
Imachimper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2013, 12:16 PM   #32
Keppelj
Adventurer
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Oddometer: 12
Avgas is leaded.
Keppelj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2013, 12:21 PM   #33
HighwayChile
greetings from Wa state
 
HighwayChile's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Location: Bow, WA USA
Oddometer: 4,282
Any chance you knew John Karelson? ( RIP) a close buddy from years back, died testing in eastern wa, held a number of world records, really a great guy, I can still hear his laugh.. his dad Ed built the Bardahl, Bud etc..

Iworked (free) on Sunny Jim crew 40 yrs ago, they needed a skinny kid to crawl under the cowl to change oil lines, greasy dirty job, if we made a good show ( yr U-95 came out) they were going to let my brother and I drive the boat trailer etc to Detroit, I reminded them I didnt have a license, they didnt care, figured I could drive the flat boring stuff. engine blew, bad showing, no $ for trip.

boat was rented from Bothell junk man Ed Gilliam at 405/Bothell ev hwy junction, now its some tech plant. amazing place, dozens of WWII, V-12 in crates still, 427 side oiler fords laying about w/ blowers, huge place , motor heads dream
great flick on unlimited , "Madison" even if you arent into unlimited, if anyone hasnt seen it, rent it .


Quote:
Originally Posted by tod701 View Post
Nope, I only raced in gas classes.
Specific gravity limit of 770 and ionic charge limits too.

Some other classes run methanol, I don't think there are any open fuel inboard classes left. The 98 cubic inch class is long gone and I think that 7 litre Div I is dead too. Even though they could, not too many people ran nitro in their 7 litres. Even running just methanol, the men that drove these boats around Green Lake had massive balls.


__________________
I would rather wake up in the middle of nowhere than in any city on earth. .....Steve McQueen
HighwayChile is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2013, 02:17 PM   #34
tod701
Studly Adventurer
 
tod701's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Location: Stanwood
Oddometer: 896
Quote:
Originally Posted by HighwayChile View Post
Any chance you knew John Karelson?
Yup, sure did.
I remember getting a call the night he died. As I recall they were testing without a chase boat (not uncommon in those days) and Ed had to go get John out of the water himself. Had to have been heartbreaking.

I crewed on boats in the 280 and 7 litre class from 1971 to 1985. We often raced against boats that Ed built. Even a few that John's uncle Dave built. I crewed part of a season on a 280 that Ed built, but most of the time our boats were built by Ron Jones Sr. Tried my hand at driving a 1 litre for a couple of years after that, but even with a borrowed boat it was well beyind my budget at the time.

Here is a much younger and thinner me getting to take the 7 liter out at Lake Tapps during a test session.

__________________
Tod
NMA, WOHVA, BRC, AMA, NRA
tod701 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2013, 02:19 PM   #35
tod701
Studly Adventurer
 
tod701's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Location: Stanwood
Oddometer: 896
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keppelj View Post
Avgas is leaded.
Avgas 100 can usually be purchaced in either low lead or no lead formula.
__________________
Tod
NMA, WOHVA, BRC, AMA, NRA
tod701 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 09:55 PM   #36
bscman
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Jun 2012
Location: Sedro Woolley, WA
Oddometer: 120
Quote:
Originally Posted by IpponDuro View Post
I rode through the Cook Road 76 station this morning, all the pumps now have the sticker "contains up to 10% ethanol"

Most of the Heavy farm equipment runs on Diesel, Non-taxed Red Diesel Dyed so The IRS can check your tanks and fine you for having it in your street legal vehicle. The Local farmers will usually have BSCMAN deliver the red stuff direct to the farm so they don't have to "road" the tractors to town.

Yep, talked to the a driver working at the outfit that delivers to said 76 reminding him to leave stickers.


The Skagit Farmers behind Skagit Powersports is the only on in Skagit County I'm currently aware of with Ethanol free gasolines.


HOWEVER! I'm hearing grumbling from Conoco Phillips that they may introduce a 91 octane ethanol free gasoline to satisfy many of the local boaters and powersport enthusiasts that have been voicing their discontent. This is nothing official, but it is being looked into...don't hold your breath, though!


As for the non-taxible "ruby red liquid gold" the farmers use...there have been a couple local skagit/island county outfits that have been dinged for running non-taxible fuel on the road in the last 18 months or so...one was cited for over $10k!


I'll keep you posted if I come across any others in Skagit Co with real gasoline.
bscman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2013, 10:11 AM   #37
kwisn
One Happy Dog
 
kwisn's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2008
Location: Griffonderosa Dog Ranch
Oddometer: 8,674
Thanks for the info bsc. I filled up there yesterday and my truck likes it! I did get the stinkeye from random log truck driver though.
__________________
kwisn
kwisn is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2013, 01:16 PM   #38
IpponDuro
Now with Camel Toe
 
IpponDuro's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Location: Burlington Wa.
Oddometer: 1,005
Quote:
Originally Posted by kwisn View Post
Thanks for the info bsc. I filled up there yesterday and my truck likes it! I did get the stinkeye from random log truck driver though.

Just tell em ya know Ipponduro They'll leave ya alone. they're like a bunch of little girls really. That station can be gossip central for the Log Haulers on weekdays between 3 and 5 p.m. Some of them get fuel, park there trucks out of the way and just "hang out" swapping stories about other drivers mistakes, coffee stand girls and whatever else truck drivers talk about.
IpponDuro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2013, 10:32 AM   #39
kwisn
One Happy Dog
 
kwisn's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2008
Location: Griffonderosa Dog Ranch
Oddometer: 8,674
I filled up there last night and 2 drivers were yakking away when I got there and still going when I left.
__________________
kwisn
kwisn is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 06:26 PM   #40
brianjonesphoto
Single Track Noob
 
brianjonesphoto's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Location: The Brier Patch, WA
Oddometer: 1,551
As of at least Tuesday the 76 station in Marysville at I-5 and 116th no longer has straight gas either. It's not listed on pure gas anymore and there are 10% signs on the pumps. Major bummer!


Typos and nonsensical words courtesy of fat fingers on a make believe keyboard.
__________________
Brian
Mine: 07 DL650 ABS, 99 DR350SEx, 05 Montesa 4RT Her's: 02 KL250 Super Sherpa

www.PhotoSupportNW.com

brianjonesphoto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 07:12 PM   #41
peterman
cop magnet
 
peterman's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Location: Springfield,,,,like the Simpsons,,,orygun
Oddometer: 13,114
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keppelj View Post
Avgas is leaded.
works great in an old KLR!
[edit] old airhead beemers too!
__________________
peterman
___________________________
"Your God, your rules,,YOU go burn in hell!" LLV
peterman is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2013, 09:02 AM   #42
bscman
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Jun 2012
Location: Sedro Woolley, WA
Oddometer: 120
Quote:
Originally Posted by logging road rider View Post
I stopped there for beer tonight and to see if they still have ethanol free gas. The guy said nobody can get it from the refineries any more.
Not true, there is still one refinery on the west side carrying all three grades of ethanol FREE product.

Just an FYI on how many stations work...
Certain branded stations can only sell certain branded fuel.
I.E. Shell gasoline stations can't sell Chevron gasoline...So shell stations must be gasoline refined by Shell. Arco can only sell Arco fuel. Texaco and 76 gets theirs from Conoco Philips.

This limits name brand gas stations to buying fuel from certain refineries.

Further more, many stations will contract a carrier to supply them with fuel. This locks in a certain supplier for a length of time (usually mult-year contracts). If you lock into a contract with a carrier that only hauls from one or two refineries, you get the fuel they are able to deliver. If they don't happen to get fuel from a refinery that offers ethanol free, then you don't can't get ethanol free without breaching your contract.

Now, places like Coscto, Fred Meyer, and many of your unbranded "mom and pop" type fuel stations will get a Generic blend gasoline. Every refinery offers a generic blend. This is not a bad thing, it just means you don't get the "name brand" additives such as Techron. These are still fuels additized for cleanliness, and are just fine. What this does mean, though, is a "Generic" branded station isn't locked in to using one type of fuel from one specific refinery group.

The long and short of it...if anyone in Skagit Co or the surrounding area is going to have Ethanol free...it's most likely not going to be a "name brand" station.
bscman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2013, 09:24 AM   #43
tommybelvedere
Adv alacarte'
 
tommybelvedere's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Location: Bow,WA
Oddometer: 416
Thanks bscman for all the great info! I filled up bike, truck, hot rod and all my cans at the Skagit Farmers cardlock the other day and only seen one log truck in there. Oh yeah also got some off rd diesel for the tractor at way cheeper than over the rd stuff.
I hope that real gas will be there for awhile since i have a skagit membership and ethanol is hell on bikes,quads, and small power tools carb systems.
TB
tommybelvedere is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2013, 01:16 PM   #44
MillCreek
ADV Risk Manager
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Location: Snohomish county, Washington USA
Oddometer: 1,811
Bscman, Costco may use generic gasoline, but they use a proprietary gas additive package: http://www.calcupa.org/presentations...e_additive.pdf

A friend of mine works as an automotive department buyer for Costco, and he told me that a corporate goal is for the Costco gasoline to be rated as better than Top Tier gasoline. The Costco gas additive is added at the station by an automatic metering system.
__________________
Regards,
MillCreek
Snohomish County, Washington USA
2012 Suzuki DL650A as the current bike
Whole bunch of bikes in the past
MillCreek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2013, 08:15 PM   #45
Yukon Ho!
We can go ANYWHERE!
 
Yukon Ho!'s Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Location: Seattle/Mazama
Oddometer: 143
Issaquah has the good stuff

Last weekend I phoned the Grange co-op in Issaquah -- they said yes they have ethanol-free gas. Good excuse to ride the 25 miles out there. Filled a spare can too. A guy in a Toyota Pious was filling up 4-5 of the 5.8 gallon cans. Should last him into June.
Yukon Ho! is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 10:17 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014