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Old 11-27-2012, 12:00 PM   #16
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I have been cycling the complete KVR some ten years ago. And I don't recall having any conflict with anyone on a motorcycle at that time. Maybe the trail got more popular in the meantime for motorized traffic.

One hour ago I booked flights to and from Canada for a three-month trip next summer and I would love to be back on the KVR again - this time on a KLR 650. I hope that a solution can be found that allows access for all kinds of traffic. And this shows again how proper behaviour of us potentially fast track users is! Unfortunately a few idiots can destroy it for many others.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:13 PM   #17
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I have been cycling the complete KVR some ten years ago. And I don't recall having any conflict with anyone on a motorcycle at that time. Maybe the trail got more popular in the meantime for motorized traffic.

One hour ago I booked flights to and from Canada for a three-month trip next summer and I would love to be back on the KVR again - this time on a KLR 650. I hope that a solution can be found that allows access for all kinds of traffic. And this shows again how proper behaviour of us potentially fast track users is! Unfortunately a few idiots can destroy it for many others.
Hopefully you'll still be able to ride it, this is the classic case of a few dummies ruining it for the rest of us. We rode it 3 years ago it was dusty so 4 of us were keeping decent space between each other and there was some 20-25 year old white trash half wit with a wife beater on a clapped out old racing quad doing probably 100km/h that almost wiped each of us out. He never got the clue that there was more than himself on the trail, just stupid we were pissed even as motorized users.
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Old 03-16-2013, 12:55 PM   #18
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Hej folks in BC!

Any update on the KVR? Hope it will still be open this summer for motorized traffic! I would love to explore some sections by motorcycle but of course I will stay away from the popular and croweded Myra Canyon. For that one I would actually like to rent a bicycle and get some exercise!

So what's the legal situation for this summer?

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Old 03-16-2013, 01:04 PM   #19
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Hej folks in BC!

Any update on the KVR? Hope it will still be open this summer for motorized traffic! I would love to explore some sections by motorcycle but of course I will stay away from the popular and croweded Myra Canyon. For that one I would actually like to rent a bicycle and get some exercise!

So what's the legal situation for this summer?

Greetings from Sweden
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If the KVRs status is up in the air you could always take the TCAT as a viable alternative: http://www.graveltravel.ca/index.php...at-bc1&catid=1
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:28 AM   #20
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Already rode it. Kinda boring. Dont care if they close it off to motorized traffic.
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:55 AM   #21
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This is an old rail trail right? I haven't researched it much at all, so please give me the boot if I am wrong.....I'll take it.
IMHO...rail trails are good for one thing and that is to cover some distances in a relative hurry so to speak. They do go through some really spectacular scenery in some locations, and there are a few huge tressels to cross. But, for excitement so to speak they are not much better than the black top with a centre line. If you are unfortunate and are behind someone on a dry day, you'll eat more scenery than you'll see. Those types of trails get mighty dusty, mighty fast from what i have experienced.
Sure you can get deep into the wilds while on these types of trails, but they can be done on any form of motorized vehicle so to speak....so the riding experience isn't really there.....I'm sure it could be at breakneck speeds and that is probably why the Greenies are wanting to close it. No I'm no greenie, far from it. But I have had to fight them for rights here in Ontario without any success what so ever. They have much more fundage and a stronger will to see it to the end. It seems us motorized sport folks can't even get organized as a whole to fight the fight. We constantly argure over who gets the final say, or useages, anything......while the Greenies just keep marching forward to the end goal. Keep us out! They don't have any grey areas to worry about, it's simple.....anything that burns fuel to move is refused entry. I gave up fighting these groups long ago. I just move away to other locations or move away from the sport. It's not the answer or the right thing to do for the long term benefit of our sport or any motorized sport. We will soon be only allowed to ride our machines within a plastic bubble as not to pollute the atmoshere or ruin the ground we ride on. Lets face it, we do both and we can't argue this fact. Google trail damages from space and see what pops up! You literally can see where the once single track trails have been destroyed by motorized vehicles. Did you or I do it, maybe not....but the Greenies don't care. It was a motorized vehicle and that is what they want to keep out. Plain and simple.

So, I do admit the trails are great ways to get into the wilderness and enjoy nature. Once the Greenies get their sites set on a specific trail or location.....it's just a matter of time before they win. Unless we start fighting like they do.....a unified front....all motorized sports need to come together and represent as one....then we may have some clout!

This is why I have switched to a dualsport bike with capabilities to ride both road and trails....no more trailering to the areas where I hope I'm not locked out of, only to find another trail gone and I am forced once again to drive home to find a new location. I ride to the trails, enjoy a few hours on them and then ride home......a win win for me. Plus, if I do meet someone on the trails the bike isn't loud and aggressive or I haven't left rooster trails behind me for as far as the eye can see.

Call me an old fart, or senile whatever.....but sooner or later it will hit home like it did with me.
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Old 03-19-2013, 05:35 PM   #22
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I do not understand what the issue is. They going to close it for motorized vehicles, that is fine. Nobody does have any money to maintain it, so the closure is the best they can do. Again, they do not have money to cope with slides, washouts, and general maintenance, let alone those farmers. If they would not have closed it your children won't see the difference between railroad and rutted trail.
And it's not like they close the trail to everybody but gays or transvestites. No, every white heterosexual man is still welcome, just change the mode of transportation.
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Old 03-19-2013, 07:23 PM   #23
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Lmfao!!!
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